With the US subprime crisis spreading to Europe, shockwaves in Northern Rock which would spread to other banks, UK economy growth not looking healthy, increasing trade deficits, sharply rising mortgage costs, falling corporate profits and job cuts especially in the City, and as market turmoils escalates, housing price which shows a first drop of 2.6% (from Rightmove last month), this are the signs of the beginning of a housing crash. PROPERTY SHARES ARE A SELL!

British House Prices Down By 40%


One flat in Folkestone, Kent, went on the market on January 28 this year at 125,000, and has now been reduced to 75,000.

The one-bedroom, lower ground floor property lies in an upmarket area of the coastal town, and is in need of refurbishment.

When Sky News Online posed as cash buyers, the estate agent Fell Reynolds confirmed the flat had been slashed from 125,000 to 99,950 and then to 75,000 because of the housing slump.

"We felt that because of the lack of interest and the market conditions, 75,000 would be a realistic price," the agent added.

"It's a nice little flat in a good area."

Other properties in the UK have fallen even more sharply, according to Propertysnake, a website which measures price reductions.

One two bedroom house near Worthing, West Sussex, was first advertised last October at 319,950 - but is now down a staggering 53% to 149,995.

A similar home in Cardiff, Wales, has been slashed by 45% from 184,950 to 100,000 in less than a year.

The news comes as new figures show estate agents are selling only one house a week.

The Royal Institution of Chartered Surveyors (RICS) said its members sold an average of just 11.5 homes during the three months to the end of September - the lowest level since its survey first began in 1978.

The situation is even worse in London, where estate agents have made an average of just eight sales during the period.

Some London homes on the market are down 20% from original asking prices, taking them back to levels seen in 2005 and 2006.

And completion prices are even lower because of 'gazundering' - where buyers cut their offer at the last minute - in the capital.

A five-bedroom house in Herne Hill has been cut by 37% from 1,275,000 to 795,000 as the number of homes sold in London falls to its lowest level since records began 30 years ago.

One London agent said: "We're 20% down. There are some very, very keen sellers out there."

In other new figures, the number of first-time buyers getting on to the property ladder slumped to a record low during August.

An RICS spokesman said he hoped this week's bail-out of three high street banks would help the housing market and restore buyer confidence.

Its time to change the header!

Lots of cheap property out there . Good time to make deals .

I think it's only fair they get reposssessed - why did they take a 125% mortgage in the first place??? Northern Bank is a business, not a charitable organisation...



Repossesssions rising sharply.

Around 19,000 homes were repossessed in the first half of this year by mortgage lenders and banks as a whole.

The charity said that the bank was not being flexible enough with customers who defaulted on their mortgage repayments.

Chris Tapp, Director of Credit Action said: "There's not a lot of flexibility being shown by Northern Rock. They are also not giving people a lot of time, they seem to be moving for repossession quite quickly as a resort."

He added: "They are being quite aggressive in terms of their use of the courts in going for repossession, but for a lot of people they don't need to get to that point, if only Northern Rock would be more flexible with them in the first place."

Earlier this week the nationalised lender said it was "well ahead" of its Government loan repayment target, having paid back more than half the 26 billion owed, to leave 11.4 billion outstanding as of September 30.

Before running into funding problems last summer, Northern Rock was one of the UK's biggest and most aggressive mortgage providers, advancing loans worth as much as 125 per cent of home values.

But it was forced to turn to the Bank of England for emergency support after the money markets froze, leaving the group facing a funding crisis.

Northern Rock's nationalisation in February led to 1,500 job losses as it scaled back activity to pay back the Government.

The lender has been reducing the size of its mortgage book in order to pay back its Government borrowing.

Most of the repossessions were for properties secured with a "Together" mortgage, which allowed buyers to borrow up to 125 per cent of the property's value.

hlyeo98 - they took 125% mortgages because they were encouraged to do so and in their ignorance trusted the lender. It would never have happened in the "old fashioned" banking days, when the lenders felt a duty of care towards their customers. Unlike you and me, they were ignorant of basic financial acumen, which imo should be the first thing on the National Curriculum at Secondary schools.

Sorry, I can't agree with that, partridge. It's just like the younger generation are draining their credit cards and not paying up. Despite that, they still think things are 'hunky dory'. This is sheer stupidity.

We will have to agree to differ. I believe most people are still basically honest, but have not a clue when it comes to their finances, until it is too late. Having given some time voluntarily a few years ago to talk for an hour a week to 16 year olds at a good independent school about basic finance issues, I was appalled at the lack of knowledge - and they were generally very bright students. We are now beginning to see the results of ignorant borrowers and irresponsible lenders. A government which has encouraged high levels of debt as a normal thing, both by its own direct actions and by insisting that there is nothing wrong with coming out of university with a debt of 30K, also imo takes some responsibility.

Collapsing house prices are plunging 60,000 homeowners a month into negative equity, which means the country is on course for a worse crisis than the 1990s crash.

At current trends, 2m households will enter negative equity by 2010, outstripping the 1.8m affected at the bottom of the last housing slump.

New research from Standard & Poors, the ratings agency, coincides with evidence that banks are aggressively seizing homes whose owners have slipped just a few hundred pounds behind on their mortgage payments.

It is a further signal that the financial crisis is now infecting the real economy as hundreds of thousands of families face the prospect of being unable to move house because their home is worth less than the value of their mortgage.

Many more homeowners will now be afraid that the bank may suddenly repossess their property. Repossessions have soared to 19,000 in the first half of the year, up 40% on the previous six months. That figure is expected to rise to 26,000 in the second half of 2008.

Economists believe house prices will fall by up to 35% from their peak by 2010. This compares with a drop of only 20% in the early 1990s.

Last night opposition politicians blamed Labour for encouraging a culture of indebtedness that now threatens to cause an implosion in the housing market. Philip Hammond, the shadow Treasury chief secretary, said: We are now paying the price for a decade of debt-fuelled boom, with hundreds of thousands of people unable to sell their property, after being encouraged by the government to overstretch themselves to get on the property ladder.

Vince Cable, the Liberal Democrat finance spokesman, urged Gordon Brown to do more to prevent unnecessary repossessions. It genuinely must be a lenders last resort, which right now it certainly is not, he said.

With official figures out this week expected to show Britain has fallen into recession, Brown is planning a 1930s-style programme of public works, spending billions on new schools, homes and transport projects. He has urged senior colleagues to increase expenditure on big capital projects despite forecasts that tax revenues are about to collapse.

Browns ambitious plan is modelled on Franklin Roosevelts New Deal, which helped drag America out of the Great Depression. A Whitehall source said: We cannot afford to risk the complete collapse of our construction industry. We have to make sure that the skills have not been lost when we finally pull out of the downturn.

Standard & Poors has calculated that by the end of the month 335,000 homes will be worth less than their mortgages. The figure represents a rise of 260,000 in four months.

Capital Economics, the City consultancy, expects up to 2m properties will be in negative equity by 2010 more than in the recession of the early 1990s.

Northern Rock, the bank nationalised this year, is said to be behind a wave of aggressive repossessions. In the nine months to the end of September, the state-owned lender made more than 2,000 seizures.

Esther Spick, from Surrey, is three months in arrears on her Northern Rock mortgage. The lender has launched repossession proceedings, even though she owes just 1,200. In one case reported to The Sunday Times by a housing charity, the bank is trying to seize a home where the owner is just 800 in arrears, even though he has about 40,000 of equity in the 180,000 property.

Chris Tapp, director of Credit Action, a debt charity, said: What makes these negative equity statistics so worrying is that they come at a time when banks are behaving so unreasonably over repossessions.

We are particularly dismayed with the inflexibility of Northern Rock.

Adam Sampson, chief executive of Shelter, the housing charity, said: Northern Rock is behaving very aggressively on repossessions, but it is not the only lender acting like that.

The Council of Mortgage Lenders said there were no industry guidelines for how deeply in arrears a lender had to be for a home loan provider to be entitled to launch repossession proceedings.

The government said last night it would bring forward laws forcing lenders to offer alternative payment schemes before they were allowed to take back possession of the property.

Northern Rock denied that it was overly aggressive. Repossession proceedings are only launched as a last resort, it said.

The details of the prime ministers extra spending on public works is expected to be unveiled in the pre-budget report next month. Brown has already tasked his new enforcer, the Cabinet Office minister, Liam Byrne, with compiling a list of major construction projects at risk from the credit crunch that would benefit from extra government support.

Browns handling of the financial crisis has failed to improve Labours electoral prospects. Despite most voters saying he had performed well over the past few weeks, only 13% said they were now more likely to vote Labour, an ICM survey for the News of the World found.

Barratt raises incentives as profits plunge


Barratt Developments, Britains biggest housebuilder, today unveiled measures to kick start the property market as it axed its final shareholder dividend and reported a 67 per cent slide in pre-tax profits.

The group pledged to pay customers stamp duty on purchases up to 500,000 and said it would be launching a part-exchange service normally reserved for the car industry. Anyone looking to buy a new Barratt home can sell their old one to the business at a fair market value.

Mark Clare, chief executive of Barratt, said housebuilders had to offer higher incentives given the considerable uncertainty about the near-term prospects for the sector.

He said: We know from research that our customers want low moving costs, help in selling their existing property, and more certainty over the price of their purchase."

The poor health of the market was reflected in full-year profits from the group today. The heavily-indebted housebuilder, which has spent the summer struggling to put its finances on a better footing, scrapped its final dividend and made writedowns worth 208.4 million on its land and commercial developments.

As a result, pre-tax profit for the 12 months to June 30 fell from 424.8 million last year to 137.3 million. Like its rival, Redrow, Barratt is paying only an interim dividend. Investors received a 12.23p per share payout in May.

The housebuilder, Britain's biggest by volume, said that margins, which have halved during 2008, would continue to slide in 2009, while forward sales in the past four weeks were down 30 per cent on the previous year.

Full-year revenues rose 16.7 per cent to 3.5 billion but like-for-like completions fell by 13.8 per cent.

From Times Online October 31, 2008



US confidence falls at biggest rate in 30 years Tom Bawden, New York


US consumer spending fell for the first time in two years in September as the weakening economy prompted the biggest decline in Americans confidence in at least three decades and reduced their ability to finance the purchase of goods and services.

The 0.3 per cent decrease in consumer spending in September was the biggest decline in three and a half years and came after two consecutive months of flat expenditure, according to new figures from the Commerce Department.

Weak spending looks set to continue as separate data indicated that consumer confidence recorded its biggest decline in October since monthly data began in 1978.

The Reuters/University of Michigan index of consumers sentiment dropped from 70.3 in September to 57.6 in October. The measure, in which the larger the number. the greater the confidence, averaged 85.6 last year.

In a further dose of gloomy economic news, the Institute for Supply Management-Chicago reported that its index a gauge of employment and demand fell from 56.7 in September to 37.8 in October.

From The Times November 3, 2008


Three million homeowners face negative equity trapGary Duncan, Economics Editor

Three million homeowners, or more than a fifth of households, could end up in the trap of negative equity, with mortgage debts larger than the value of their property, as house prices continue to plunge, new City estimates show.

Bank of England calculations that the numbers caught in negative equity could soar from about half a million at present to 1.2 million by 2011, are seen as too optimistic in the bleakest assessment yet of the threat.

Michael Saunders, of Citigroup, says that the Bank's estimates are too optimistic since they are based on a survey of households where homeowners are asked for details of their own debts, financial assets and property value. Mr Saunders points to previous Bank research which showed that individuals tend to overstate the value of their homes by up to 20 per cent, and understate debts by 10 to 15 per cent.

Adjusting for this bias, he calculates that a likely further drop of 15 per cent in house prices on top of the 15 per cent slide over the past year will leave between 2.5 and 3 million homeowners in negative equity. This would exceed the peak of 1.8 million, the number of people who were in this predicament in the early Nineties.

Mr Saunders gave warning that negative equity will leave millions of people reluctant to spend and deepen the painful, consumer-driven recession that most of the City now expects. Widespread negative equity is likely to exert a lasting drag on spending as households save more, while also hitting the credit quality of lenders' assets and adding to the caution over high debt levels among both lenders and borrowers, he said.

Worries over the scale of the housing slump were reinforced on Friday as the latest snapshot of conditions in London from Knight Frank, the estate agent, showed that prices in the prime residential areas of the capital fell by a record 3.9 per cent last month.

The City is on alert for Thursday's interest rates verdict from the Bank's monetary policy committee (MPC). A cut is seen as a certainty, with a majority of economists expecting a further half-point reduction to match last month's emergency move, and take rates to 4 per cent.

Some believe the MPC will be bolder, and order an unprecedented reduction of 0.75 percentage points, or even a full point as it steps up its efforts to prevent a deep recession. On the same day, the European Central Bank is also expected to cut eurozone interest rates by a half-point.

Pressure on the MPC to deliver an aggressive rate cut will be increased this week as a spate of dire results from corporate Britain is expected to emphasise the impact of the economic downturn. First-half sales at Marks & Spencer are tipped to be the worst for three years, while British Airways' half-year results on Friday are expected to show the impact of sliding demand and the past surge in oil prices.

Is it any wonder all these folk go into negative equity? You borrow 6x your salary to take out a 125% loan in an already over-inflated market.

It was bound to end in tears and I've no sympathy with th ose borrowers who got themselves into that position nor with the banks who ran around with their heads up their rear ends for far too long.

Long may this downturn continue IMO. A lifelong lesson is being learnt by those who need it.

Which is fine Al as long as you are not one of those people who are facing eviction and all that goes with it (I am not). Although one and all have a responsibility to ensure mortgages can be paid, whatever happened to the fiscal responsibilites of banks who should have ensured that borrowers could make their repayments? I think you must have a brick on a string for a heart mate ;-)

pth

I agree, as noted above, that the banks have a huge role to play in this, but it seems everybody is trying to lay the balme solely at their door. As individuals we all have a responsibility to monitor where we are financially and far too many have neglected that for the sake of having all the material things they really could not afford. I mean some folk must have been struggling to pay 6x for a start even at the lowest interest rates. They were purely greedy and blinded by that.

They were living a dream and eventually we all wake up.

I'm sorry, but you make your own bed in life and to blame others for stealing the covers is an abdictation of responsiblity IMO. That's all I'm saying.

In the early 80's, Maggie said we should take a dose of medicine. In the late 00's, another dose is here to be swallowed and it'll take a few more spoonfuls yet!

It's not all doom and gloom . Not sure how the Dinar has fared but can't be much worse than the pound.http://www.rte.ie/news/2008/0916/baghdad.html

There is really no hurry to buy a house now...especially the first-time buyers, just wait for another 6-12 months and you will get a better bargain.



House prices still falling fast


House prices fell another 2.6% in November, the Halifax says.

According to its latest survey, that increased the annual rate of house price falls to 14.9%, as against the 13.7% rate in the 12 months to October.

The Halifax said the average property in the UK was now valued at 163,605,
a level last seen in July 2005.

Last week, the Nationwide building society said the pace of house price decline had eased off, with prices down 13.9 % in the year to November.

But the Halifax figures suggest that house price falls are accelerating.

"The combination of high house prices in relation to earnings, constraints on householders' incomes and spending power, and the decline in the availability of mortgage finance since the summer of 2007 has curbed housing demand," said the Halifax's chief economist, Martin Ellis.

The mortgage lender calculates the annual rate of decline by comparing the average house price over the past three months with the average for the same three-month period the year before.

A straightforward monthly year-on-year comparison suggests that prices may have fallen even faster, by 16.1%, although the lender argues that this approach can be distorted by short-term price fluctuations.

The Halifax's survey suggests that the average house price has now dropped by 31,485 in the past 12 months.

Mr Ellis said there were indications that sales, if not prices, had bottomed out.

"The number of mortgages approved to finance house purchase was broadly unchanged for the fourth successive month in October at a seasonally adjusted 32,000," he said.

"The recent flattening off in approvals suggests that housing market activity may be stabilising."

However, there are widespread fears that the current rationing of mortgages will become even worse in the coming year, unless the government's efforts to overcome the crisis in the banking industry and to revive mortgage lending come to fruition.

The Council of Mortgage Lenders (CML), among others, has warned that new lending may be negative in 2009, for the first time on record.

That means that there could be so little new lending by banks and building societies that it would be outstripped by borrowers paying off their mortgages.

That in turn would means sales falling even further, putting further downward pressure on prices.

The Halifax will be publishing its formal house price prediction for 2009 later this month.

"We have said we were comfortable with the consensus that prices would fall by about 20% over the course of 2008 and 2009," said Mr Ellis.

"But we do need to look at that again," he added.

Other commentators have already suggested that prices will continue to fall fast, with some suggesting they could drop by another 15-20%.

"The speed at which this housing market correction is unfolding, already the fastest on record by a country mile, is likely to step up a gear over the coming months," said Seema Shah at the consultancy Capital Economics.

"We think that we are only half way through this correction."

House Prices decline 2.2% in December - MoneyAM


Average UK House prices fell by 2.2% during December, according to the Halifax Building Society. House prices nationally are now 16.25% lower than 12 months ago.

Halifax says that the house price to earnings ratio is at its lowest for five and a half years. At 4.44, this is the lowest since April 2003 but is still above the long term average of 4.0

Repossessions almost doubled in the three months to September last year, according to the City watchdog.

Figures published today by the Financial Services Authority (FSA) show 13,161 homes were repossessed by mortgage lenders in the third quarter of last year. It represents a 92 per cent jump on the same period in 2007, when fewer than 7,000 householders lost their homes.

The FSA also warned of a sharp rise in the number of homeowners who have missed at least one mortgage repayment. It said 340,000 borrowers were in arrears at the end of September, a 24 per cent rise on the same period in 2007 and a ten per cent rise on the previous quarter of last year.

The proportion of total mortgages in arrears rose to 2.92 per cent, up 0.79 percentage points on the third quarter in 2007. The figures, which were compiled by the FSA using data from 300 mortgage lenders, paint a worsening picture of the UK housing market.

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Mixed signals abound. We're still in the bull trap for me.

"Roger Bootle, managing director of macroeconomic research consultancy Capital Economics: 'Houses would still look expensive if rates hit average levels of around 6-7%. The average house price to earnings ratio is now still at the previous all-time peak seen in the 1980s, even after recent falls, so house prices have some way further to fall.'

I agree totally with Mr Bootle. ;-))