Will this increase or decrease the likelihood of terrorist actions in America, Europe and the rest of the world?

If you were a member of a family murdered in this conflict, would you be seeking revenge?

Should Tzipi Livni and Ehud Olmert, be tried for war crimes if or when this conflict comes to an end?

What will the price of oil be in 4 weeks time?

Al Jazeera comments
it's all controlled by Israeli pimps who persuade the gullible parents of these innocent girls that the streets of Jerusalem and Rammallah are paved with gold

Bit like telling poles Bradford is

19/07/2010 - 08:43 AM
A Zionist settler ran over a Palestinian child in Al-Khalil city on Sunday evening then sped away in his motorbike causing serious injuries to the 12-year-old child.

Eyewitnesses said that Abdullah Al-Muhtaseb was thought to be killed at first, but later on he was found suffering serious injuries.

They said that the accident occurred near the Ibrahimi Mosque.

Settlers frequently hit Palestinian citizens on the bypass roads in the West Bank due to reckless driving and absolute disregard for safety of Palestinian pedestrians.

as confirmed by Jeruslem Times who continue, that this sort of thing is not only premeditated murder but has reached massacre proportions

ISTANBUL
Bulent Yildirim, the head of the Turkish charitable society IHH, has said that the Israeli army's allegation that it was defending itself during its "terrorist" attack on the Freedom Flotilla was nothing but a big lie.

He said on Monday that the Israeli attack on the flotilla was meant as a revenge step against Turkish premier Recep Erdogan for his anti Israeli occupation policies.

Yildirim revealed that the IHH was planning to take legal action against Israel, adding that he met with lawyers from 23 countries and consulted with them over the issue.

He noted that the volunteers, who were aboard the flotilla, from 36 countries also plan to file lawsuits against Israel.

am i not right (or left?) in thinking that IHH is heavily infiltrated by a (pro-hamas) militant faction?
if so, its credibility as a charity is seriously jeopardised

Not really Hamas. It is muslim and has been around for 15 years or so I guess. It was set up in response to problems in Bosmia. It does work all over the world in 100 countries. It is a charitable aid foundation. It helps with natural disasters such as earthquakes. It is Israel that says that IHH is involved with Hamas. I think it is very unlikely. IHH recognised Hamas as it is the government of Gaza and works with them in terms of aid. Israel doesn't like IHH becuase they recognise Hamas.

hayseed - i think that report came independently from elsewhere .... no doubt you could find it, except you wouldn't want to

There is some confusion about IHH as it has the same name as a German charity with the same initials who were sued by the Turkish IHH. The only report I have seen about IHH came from Israel or other bodies reporting the story as an Israeli comment. Israel claims it to be a terrorist body as they support and recognise Hamas as the government of Gaza. The IHH has claimed in the past that it deals with Hamas and gives aid via Hamas as it is the best way to make sure the aid actually gets to the people in Gaza.

call me a cynic if you like, but if you are distributing "aid" through a known hostile (terrorist) organisation, rather than through the red cross or similar, then one's motives and impartiality become deeply suspect.

the simplest way for avoiding confrontation - clearly what was NOT wanted - would have been to do it through consultation with other channels, even if it meant routing via ashdod

at least noraid, a blatant front for ira, was marginally more subtle

They don't need to distribute aid thgrough the Red Cross or Red Crescent as they are an aid organisation themselves. Hamas is the lawful government of Gaza, democratically elected. The tag 'terrorist' is a subjective one. Of course the aid flotilla was meant to be a confrontation. The aim is to stop the Gaza seige as well as distributing aid. IHH is a an Islamic aid organisation in the same way that Christian Aid is a christian organisation as are huge numbers of aid groups. There are probably more religious aid organisations (mainly christian) than non-religious.

19/07/2010 - 12:42 PM
An Israeli female soldier admitted in a TV show entitled "soldiers behind the scenes" that she helped once her comrades to kill a Palestinian child in cold blood, but she did not disclose when and where the crime took place.

"I was monitoring through the camera at the command center the movements of Palestinian children throwing stones at the army and directing soldiers to move towards the kids, and under my guidance through the walkie-talkie, they killed a Palestinian kid," the soldier said.

She added that she, afterwards, received congratulations from the soldiers on the killing of the child and claimed she was shocked by this news and felt her directions were the direct cause of the death of this innocent child.

She also confessed that the slain child did not constitute any threat to the heavily-armed soldiers.

Another female soldier also told the channel that she arbitrarily detained and tortured dozens of Palestinian citizens during her shift at the Shave Shomron checkpoint located between Nablus and Jenin.

She blatantly said she detained 80 Palestinians, only for pleasure, and forced them to stay under scorching sunlight while she was yelling at them without any reason and watching them suffer from boiling heat.

oh yawn yawn yawn ..... i wouldn't expect you, as a blinkered individual, to agree with an objective view, but distributing through an overtly "destructive" and militant organisation like hamas is a very questionable decision for a charity to make ..... i am also 99% certain that CA would not do so

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Fibi Netanyahu
In 2001, PM boasted of manipulating Oslo accords

By Liel Leibovitz | Jul 15, 2010 4:03 PM | Print | Email / Share
Netanyahu in 2001.

Netanyahu in 2001.

Channel 10

Meeting with Benjamin Netanyahu last week, President Obama could not have been more effusive. I believe Prime Minister Netanyahu wants peace, Obama said. I believe he is ready to take risks for peace.

A newly revealed tape of Netanyahu in 2001, being interviewed while he thinks the cameras are off, shows him in a radically different light. In it, Netanyahu dismisses American foreign policy as easy to maneuver, boasts of having derailed the Oslo accords with political trickery, and suggests that the only way to deal with the Palestinians is to beat them up, not once but repeatedly, beat them up so it hurts so badly, until its unbearable (all translations are mine).

According to Haaretzs Gideon Levy, the video should be Banned for viewing by children so as not to corrupt them, and distributed around the country and the world so that everyone will know who leads the government of Israel.

Netanyahu is speaking to a small group of terror victims in the West Bank settlement of Ofra two years after stepping down as prime minister in 1999. He appears laid-back. After claiming that the only way to deal with the Palestinian Authority was a large-scale attack, Netanyahu was asked by one of the participants whether or not the United States would let such an attack come to fruition.

I know what America is, Netanyahu replied. America is a thing you can move very easily, move it in the right direction. They wont get in their way. He then called former president Bill Clinton radically pro-Palestinian, and went on to belittle the Oslo peace accords as vulnerable to manipulation. Since the accords state that Israel would be allowed to hang on to pre-defined military zones in the West Bank, Netanyahu told his hosts that he could torpedo the accords by defining vast swaths of land as just that.

They asked me before the election if Id honor [the Oslo accords], Netanyahu said. I said I would, but Im going to interpret the accords in such a way that would allow me to put an end to this galloping forward to the 67 borders. How did we do it? Nobody said what defined military zones were. Defined military zones are security zones; as far as Im concerned, the entire Jordan Valley is a defined military zone. Go argue.

Smiling, Netanyahu then recalled how he forced former U.S. Secretary of State Warren Christopher to agree to let Israel alone determine which parts of the West Bank were to be defined as military zones. They didnt want to give me that letter, Netanyahu said, so I didnt give them the Hebron agreement [the agreement giving Hebron back to the Palestinians]. I cut the cabinet meeting short and said, Im not signing. Only when the letter came, during that meeting, to me and to Arafat, did I ratify the Hebron agreement. Why is this important? Because from that moment on, I de facto put an end to the Oslo accords.

President Obama, and anyone else concerned about Israels commitment to the peace process, may watch the tape online here.

http://www.tabletmag.com/scroll/39692/fibi-netanyahu/

Watch the video here

http://news.nana10.co.il/Article/?ArticleId=731025&sid=126

Netanyahu dos not want peace. He may lie to Obama and Obama may even pretend he belives him, but there can be no peace deals without all the parties involved and that includes Hamas.

what's that got to do with the point i raised ..... bugger all so mere evasion

Israel will get its equal share of what it has been doing to the palistinians...all in good time. It will not get away with it.

cynic. I wasn't replying to you, but to 'azhar'.

Here is the same video with English sub titles.

Half way through he asks for the camera to be stopped, but it carries on.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6KLFrye9Xk