Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

Slightly concerned about BoJo calling tomorrow Independence Day...I've seen that film, it did not go well !!!
And I hear rumours the buggers are back ooh..er

SC

Strangely not much has been said directly about democracy in this campaign, despite the fact that the leaders of our two largest parties normally rant on about it ENDLESSLY.
But of course there is no democracy in the eu, so why mention it.
Well here's the rub, they both claim to support this concept yet they both advocate staying in the eu and relinquishing what little say we have left in our own destiny..PATHETIC.

Much has been made in the campaign of the 'WE' word.
It has frequently been my experience this turns out to be I...if we vote Leave and sanity wins the day, DC's prospects will be severely damaged.
If the remainiacs win, the benefits to DC's future wealth could be enormous.
He has already stated he will not seek re-election and will need a new job...suddenly a new post is created in Brussels...Pan-European Fart-Smeller, 4 hrs per year, salary £10M
And what about little Geogie, maybe another new post...Senior European Pre-Death Mortician, 3 days per year, salary £7.5M...
(neither job requires the successful applicant to attend)

If you really think I am joking, watch this space !!!

SC

As for immigration, the effects will be far less than most leavers hope, study your history, EVERY post-war government has sucked in ever increasing numbers, that will not change, and will end in tears.

That is not the biggest problem with a leave vote however.

Without doubt the greatest danger of a leave vote is the occupants of Downing Street, if they lose, their revenge against our country could be catastrophic economically, as they throw their toys out of the pram and do their worst....it'll still be worth it !!!

SC

Whatever your convictions I hope everyone will vote, as a good turnout is vital.

Should the remainiacs win, you will at least have the satisfaction of participating in the last meaningful vote to take place in this country.

SC

Well said on both counts.

Nice to see new faces , I'm on overload on the debate watching another BB every single company talk is on the EU, must stop looking . Which ever way it goes Britain will never be the same again , just hope we can retain our independence I'm sure these countries attitude won't be as bad as they are saying , after all if a Nation decide something other Nations should respect it . Cameron has been a total disgrace in all this .

Sadiq Khan showed himself incompetent as a speaker ,like a schoolboy trying to win an argument .Then going for the race card ,quite a vile little man.

The real battle wıll take place ıf the vote ıs to leave. No mandate those who are peddlıng dısaster to have a place ın Govt.

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If so, you should get on well with him.

Well...here we are ....time to vote out of the EU and all the dodgy, corrupt ways that have been going on.....put a stop to illegal immigrants.....because you know that vote remain means pretty much : more of the same.....of course all those people with their noses in the trough will want you to vote for same again.....but if you can see a better future for us all in getting rid of being bossed around by Brussels corrupt and co...then vote leave !....

I don't think Remain did anywhere as near as bad last night as some of you are making out. Did think the Tory gob shite was a bit OTT and could have rubbed Labour voter's up the wrong way and that the digs the Union rep was having at the government could have rubbed Conservatives up the wrong way.

Getting fed up with all the crap now and glad it'll all be over tomorrow whoever wins.

Fred no need to start the insults .

Quite strange Freda that you continuously deride posters on here for being how can I say , uneducated dumb thick etc . Do you not think you are wasted on such and why spend so much time doing said things . Are you not confident in your ability to rise to a higher level somewhere else on a par . Assess yourself and come to terms with the fact very few here seem to follow your path . Or are you just a muddled old tw@t.

it's interesting that though the polls show the two sides too close to call, the strong betting is that "remain" will carry the day

Why are the bookies putting up those odds ? no one knows ,it could be a real surprise with a bigger swing than we think.

Bookies are trying to entice customers to have a punt on 'Exit' with attractive odds and trying to offset the large bets on 'IN'. The bookies are clearly confident that 'IN' will carry the day, hence the shorter odds.
3/10 - IN
3/1 - OUT

IG betting shows 77.5% backing (betting on) remain winning, though their poll analysis also agrees too close to call

Bookies work on the amount of money not the amount of people. I heared that there has been big money on a stay, while lots of small punts on a go. Just vote. Don't be disheartened, do what is right.