goldfinger
- 09 Jun 2005 12:25
Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).
Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.
cheers GF.
MaxK
- 25 Oct 2013 19:21
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Portilo has skeletons, he didn't bail out of a guaranteed seat for nowt.
Stan
- 25 Oct 2013 20:02
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Haystack
- 25 Oct 2013 20:06
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Back when he was Energy Secretary, the Labour leader gave the LSE Ralph Miliband lecture. On November 19th 2009, he explicitly confirmed that his policies would see energy bills rise:
“It needs a willingness to take the argument to people about the tough choices involved in tackling climate change. This is the starting point: a willingness to engage with people on, for example, the fact that to deal with the problem of climate change, energy bills are likely to rise.”
That same month Miliband told parliament:
“We need to be candid about the issue because it is a very big challenge. The pressures on energy prices will be upwards in the coming decade’”
Most damning of all, in January 2010:
“Yes, there are upward pressures on energy bills, and that makes life difficult for people, including those in fuel poverty, but it is right that we go down the low-carbon energy route.”
In his own words, Miliband confirms his policies would cause energy price rises.
MaxK
- 25 Oct 2013 20:17
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Nuclear power vs wind farms: the infographic the Government doesn't want you to see
By Will Heaven Politics Last updated: October 25th, 2013
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/willheaven/100243023/nuclear-power-vs-wind-farms-the-infographic-the-government-doesnt-want-you-to-see/
Hat-tip to our Energy Correspondent Emily Gosden for this Department of Energy & Climate Change infographic. It was deleted from Gov.uk this week "because of sensitivities", according to a DECC press officer. "Hmmm," says Emily. Quite.
It turns out that the Renewable Energy Association called it "unhelpful" in a press release, pleading that "as Ed Davey stressed… it is not an either/or choice".
What's going on at DECC? I'd hate to start a conspiracy, but did the infographic come from the Tory Energy Minister Michael Fallon's people? Was it squashed by the Lib Dem Energy Secretary, Ed Davey?
Here (via @owenboswarva) is how the Government's official Hinkley Point C news story looked on Wednesday:
Move along people, nothing to see here.
aldwickk
- 25 Oct 2013 20:29
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What about the cost of de conmissoning and nuclear waste , and we only need just one mistake and the whole of the UK could end up a nuclear waste land
Haystack
- 25 Oct 2013 21:17
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The same would happen to us if the French made a mistake as they have nuclear power.
MaxK
- 25 Oct 2013 21:59
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The French don't make mistakes, they are perfick, Chinese too!
That's why Big Dave has signed the UK energy market over to foreiign interests.
Makes you wonder who he is really working for.
goldfinger
- 25 Oct 2013 22:44
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Hmmm alders and Max a bit scarey.
Lets use candles and wood. LOL.
aldwickk
- 26 Oct 2013 09:39
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People in the USA, Canada, the UK & Australia need to Take a Lesson from the Spaniards. In Seville Spain, local people found a Way to stop the Construction of another Mosque in their Town. They Buried a Pig on the site, and made Sure this would be known by the local Press. The Islamic rules forbid the erecting of a Mosque on "Pig Soiled Ground."
The Muslims had to Cancel the Project. This Land was sold to them by Government officials. No protests were needed by the local people ... and it worked!
goldfinger
- 26 Oct 2013 10:50
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AMAZING.
Haystack
- 26 Oct 2013 10:54
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The story has been around on the internet since 2010 with another one on Switzerland and in the UK. There is a strong likelihood that the stories are all hoaxes. I have discussed this with a Muslim friend previously. He thinks that removing the contaminated soil and having it declared fit for use by a Muslim cleric would be sufficient.
goldfinger
- 26 Oct 2013 10:58
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ohhhhhhh trust you to do a spoiler. I reckon its right anyway alders.
Hays going to watch Spurs (sh-te) this weekend???
UNITED UNITED UNITED UNITED
Fred1new
- 26 Oct 2013 11:25
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Cynic,
The problems with UK coal is that the majority of pits closed because of being worked out.
In general the seams left due to geological conditions unprofitable to geological conditions such as narrow seams and many areas faulting. Mechanising them had various difficulties and costs were high.
To restart coal mining I would think impractical due to;
1) absence of skill labour due the migration of labour since Maggie's rapid closing of pits in 80s and previous governments since the 60s. (You could accept skilled immigrants from various countries.)
2) lack of support industries and destruction of railway systems for transportation.
3) lack of training facillities
4) who in their right mind would wish to work underground unless the pay packets are high.
5) overseas production is more efficient and cheaper due to cheaper labour and better geological conditions for mechanisation.
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But I think I read somewhere recently there were thoughts of processing remaining coal deposits by a form of "fracking".
But the cost of energy in and out seemed questionable.
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I hear there are huge deposits under Kensington and Hyde Parks.
Would see them as sensible places to try out pilot schemes.
Might send the price of property down.
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Unfortunately, I think Nuclear for energy supplies still seems one of the best routes to go down, if sensible and safe methods for disposal of by-products can be dreamt up.
But think it should be in-house funding or via the EU in some form.
The next WW is economic and I don't fancy beholding some masters.
MaxK
- 26 Oct 2013 11:39
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Is Cameroon looking for a way out of his vanity project?
HS2 might not go ahead if Labour withdraws support, David Cameron suggests
David Cameron suggests the high speed rail link between London and the north of England might not go ahead if Labour withdraws support
Christopher Hope
By Christopher Hope, and Bruno Waterfield
11:11PM BST 25 Oct 2013
The high speed rail link between London and the north of England might not go ahead if Labour withdraws support, David Cameron has suggested.
The Prime Minister said that if Labour drops its backing for the £50billion scheme the party would be “kicking the sand in the face” of communities across middle England who need it.
Mr Cameron also said he was willing to stage an 11th hour lobbying campaign to persuade Tory rebels to support the scheme ahead of a key Commons vote, expected next week.
Mr Cameron made the remarks after Ed Balls, the shadow Chancellor, signalled that Labour might withdraw support if the costs on the project continued to spiral.
Speaking at a press conference to wrap up the European Council meeting, Mr Cameron suggested the scheme might not “proceed” without all-party support.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/road-and-rail-transport/10406039/HS2-might-not-go-ahead-if-Labour-withdraws-support-David-Cameron-suggests.html
goldfinger
- 26 Oct 2013 11:45
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WOW
MaxK
- 26 Oct 2013 11:47
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He grew a chin!
MaxK
- 26 Oct 2013 11:48
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MaxK
- 26 Oct 2013 11:51
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Fred1new
- 26 Oct 2013 14:43
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Another impending con party cock up.
Under the high command of Captain Mainwairing Cameron the PR is becoming more noticeable and Panic and Disorder rules.
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Work and pensions minister Mike Penning said reassessing people was "taking longer than expected", but introducing the scheme "gradually" was beneficial.
Labour's Rachel Reeves said it showed there was "chaos" in the department.
Claimants will remain on Disability Living Allowance (DLA) for the time being except those in Wales, the East and West Midlands and East Anglia, who will transfer to Personal Independence Payment (PIP) from Monday if their condition changes."
Haystack
- 26 Oct 2013 14:43
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HS2 is not a Conservative policy
Former Business Secretary Lord Mandelson has said Labour originally approved the High Speed Two rail project to "upstage" the Conservatives.
He told the House of Lords his party "did not feel like being trumped" over creating a fast north-south link by the Tories, then in opposition.
Lord Mandelson said he now thought there was "flimsy evidence" to back the multi-billion-pound project.
But the government insists it will boost the UK economy.
HS2 is intended to allow trains to run at 250mph (400km/h) from London to Birmingham from 2026, with branches to Manchester and Leeds via Sheffield planned for 2033.
The estimated cost of the plan has risen in the past few months from £34.2bn to £42.6bn - plus £7.5bn for rolling stock.
Gordon Brown's government debated the issue before deciding in favour.
Lord Mandelson said: "Frankly, there was too much of the argument that if everyone else has got a high-speed train we should have one too... We didn't feel like being trumped by the then opposition's support for the high-speed train. We wanted, if anything, to upstage them."
Lord Mandelson was a keen supporter of HS2 when he was in government, but earlier this year suggested the project should be scrapped.