Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

What about the cost of de conmissoning and nuclear waste , and we only need just one mistake and the whole of the UK could end up a nuclear waste land

The same would happen to us if the French made a mistake as they have nuclear power.

The French don't make mistakes, they are perfick, Chinese too!

That's why Big Dave has signed the UK energy market over to foreiign interests.

Makes you wonder who he is really working for.

Hmmm alders and Max a bit scarey.

Lets use candles and wood. LOL.

People in the USA, Canada, the UK & Australia need to Take a Lesson from the Spaniards. In Seville Spain, local people found a Way to stop the Construction of another Mosque in their Town. They Buried a Pig on the site, and made Sure this would be known by the local Press. The Islamic rules forbid the erecting of a Mosque on "Pig Soiled Ground."

The Muslims had to Cancel the Project. This Land was sold to them by Government officials. No protests were needed by the local people ... and it worked!

AMAZING.

The story has been around on the internet since 2010 with another one on Switzerland and in the UK. There is a strong likelihood that the stories are all hoaxes. I have discussed this with a Muslim friend previously. He thinks that removing the contaminated soil and having it declared fit for use by a Muslim cleric would be sufficient.

ohhhhhhh trust you to do a spoiler. I reckon its right anyway alders.

Hays going to watch Spurs (sh-te) this weekend???

UNITED UNITED UNITED UNITED

Cynic,

The problems with UK coal is that the majority of pits closed because of being worked out.

In general the seams left due to geological conditions unprofitable to geological conditions such as narrow seams and many areas faulting. Mechanising them had various difficulties and costs were high.

To restart coal mining I would think impractical due to;

1) absence of skill labour due the migration of labour since Maggie's rapid closing of pits in 80s and previous governments since the 60s. (You could accept skilled immigrants from various countries.)

2) lack of support industries and destruction of railway systems for transportation.

3) lack of training facillities

4) who in their right mind would wish to work underground unless the pay packets are high.

5) overseas production is more efficient and cheaper due to cheaper labour and better geological conditions for mechanisation.

--------

But I think I read somewhere recently there were thoughts of processing remaining coal deposits by a form of "fracking".

But the cost of energy in and out seemed questionable.

==============

I hear there are huge deposits under Kensington and Hyde Parks.

Would see them as sensible places to try out pilot schemes.

Might send the price of property down.

==========



Unfortunately, I think Nuclear for energy supplies still seems one of the best routes to go down, if sensible and safe methods for disposal of by-products can be dreamt up.

But think it should be in-house funding or via the EU in some form.

The next WW is economic and I don't fancy beholding some masters.

Is Cameroon looking for a way out of his vanity project?



HS2 might not go ahead if Labour withdraws support, David Cameron suggests

David Cameron suggests the high speed rail link between London and the north of England might not go ahead if Labour withdraws support





Christopher Hope

By Christopher Hope, and Bruno Waterfield

11:11PM BST 25 Oct 2013


The high speed rail link between London and the north of England might not go ahead if Labour withdraws support, David Cameron has suggested.


The Prime Minister said that if Labour drops its backing for the £50billion scheme the party would be “kicking the sand in the face” of communities across middle England who need it.


Mr Cameron also said he was willing to stage an 11th hour lobbying campaign to persuade Tory rebels to support the scheme ahead of a key Commons vote, expected next week.


Mr Cameron made the remarks after Ed Balls, the shadow Chancellor, signalled that Labour might withdraw support if the costs on the project continued to spiral.


Speaking at a press conference to wrap up the European Council meeting, Mr Cameron suggested the scheme might not “proceed” without all-party support.



http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/road-and-rail-transport/10406039/HS2-might-not-go-ahead-if-Labour-withdraws-support-David-Cameron-suggests.html

WOW

He grew a chin!

Another impending con party cock up.


Under the high command of Captain Mainwairing Cameron the PR is becoming more noticeable and Panic and Disorder rules.


">


"Work and pensions minister Mike Penning said reassessing people was "taking longer than expected", but introducing the scheme "gradually" was beneficial.

Labour's Rachel Reeves said it showed there was "chaos" in the department.

Claimants will remain on Disability Living Allowance (DLA) for the time being except those in Wales, the East and West Midlands and East Anglia, who will transfer to Personal Independence Payment (PIP) from Monday if their condition changes."

HS2 is not a Conservative policy

Former Business Secretary Lord Mandelson has said Labour originally approved the High Speed Two rail project to "upstage" the Conservatives.

He told the House of Lords his party "did not feel like being trumped" over creating a fast north-south link by the Tories, then in opposition.

Lord Mandelson said he now thought there was "flimsy evidence" to back the multi-billion-pound project.

But the government insists it will boost the UK economy.

HS2 is intended to allow trains to run at 250mph (400km/h) from London to Birmingham from 2026, with branches to Manchester and Leeds via Sheffield planned for 2033.

The estimated cost of the plan has risen in the past few months from £34.2bn to £42.6bn - plus £7.5bn for rolling stock.

Gordon Brown's government debated the issue before deciding in favour.


Lord Mandelson said: "Frankly, there was too much of the argument that if everyone else has got a high-speed train we should have one too... We didn't feel like being trumped by the then opposition's support for the high-speed train. We wanted, if anything, to upstage them."

Lord Mandelson was a keen supporter of HS2 when he was in government, but earlier this year suggested the project should be scrapped.

I am having problems.

But I don't expect comments. 8-)

Second go.


Another impending con party cock up.


Under the high command of Captain Mainwairing Cameron the PR is becoming more noticeable and Panic and Disorder rules.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-24680366


"Work and pensions minister Mike Penning said reassessing people was "taking longer than expected", but introducing the scheme "gradually" was beneficial.

Labour's Rachel Reeves said it showed there was "chaos" in the department.

Claimants will remain on Disability Living Allowance (DLA) for the time being except those in Wales, the East and West Midlands and East Anglia, who will transfer to Personal Independence Payment (PIP) from Monday if their condition changes."

Not sure what happened with previous posting.


Hays.

Cameron and Osborne have been trumpeting HS2 ,as if they conceived themselves, now they are trying to bail out.

They are becoming a comedy show.


I would like to have a look at the print out Cameron's mobile phone calls over the last few months.

Perhaps, the Americans will oblige.

.

FRED - 31818 - just a small aside; if the seams and mines were worked out and unprofitable etc etc, why on earth would you keep them open? ..... there is little if any doubt scargill (and others) had an agenda that was nothing whatsoever to do with their union members, but more to do with destroying the whole fabric of the country .... malheureusement pour lui, he ran into a pm who, for all her later faults, proved to be a lot tougher than him and indeed, tougher than any i remember .... the country should still be extremely grateful for that, whatever their political hue

=============

with regard to re-opening mothballed coal-fired power stations, i am far from convinced, pretty much regardless of the provenance of the coal itself

scrubbing out the sulphur - it is that that causes the pollution from smog to acid rain and similar - is very expensive, and overall, i'm not sure quite how pure that then makes the unavoidable emissions

as already stated, i'm in favour of nuclear, but i fully accept there is a good argument against it and for wind or solar or even wave power generation as the alternative