Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

There would be serious civil unrest. However, it would do little to solve the problems as there would be no jobs and little money.

We are going to have to stop importing stuff that can be made here.

There's no way around it.

it matters not if it is inherited wealth not least because very often that will create or support jobs too .... the politics of jealousy has a very nasty face too

this country has no taste for fred's widespread red revolution or other such nonsense as history (which is bunk of course) amply demonstrates

Sticky SNR, inherited wealth is not the politics of jealousy its the politics of fairness.

Why should someone who inherits wealth be given a foot up in education and health. Its the politicts of priveledge.

Their should be no place in a modern economy for this. It should be equals from birth like it was for me..........and plenty of other self made types.

Que jumping is a vile practice.

oh dear and goodness me
life is and never will be fair, though equality of opportunity is a different matter and something to strive for

however, whether you like it or not (and today you do not apparently) the acquisition of wealth is the yardstick by which 99% of the population measure success ..... remove the ability to pass that on to one's children, and either loopholes will be found (fact of life) or at the extreme end, people will be disincentivised to create wealth in the first place

reverting to equality of opportunity ...... you may give children an equal opportunity to learn, but thanks to bad parenting and lack of aspiration, a frightening number of children won't bother to make the effort ...... paraphrased in the extreme, but the point is made near enough

Like I said que jumping is a vile practice no matter how you dress it up sticky SNR

gf re your post 31960, I was under the impression that this is/was the first year your Conservative Club voted to withhold their contribution.
Are you going to resign your Conservative Club secretarial and presidential positions, seeing as you are now more aligned towards Labour?
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Sticky SNR said...........the acquisition of wealth is the yardstick by which 99% of the population measure success ...............ends.

Historically I would agree but more and more younger people now dont have that ignorant trait and KNOWLEDGE is the yardstick which by more and more of the population measure success and its growing.

Why is queue jumping wrong. The UK is unusual in that we seem to treat queuing as normal.

Luckily, we're immune...



http://www.theguardian.com/business/2013/oct/31/greece-downgraded-to-emerging-market-status-by-sp-dow-jones


Eurozone unemployment flat, inflation falls


The eurozone's unemployment rate remained unchanged at a record high of 12.2% in September. The number of people out of work rose 60,000 to 19.45m.

The figures from Eurostat, the EU's statisitcs office, showed the highest rates were in Greece at 27.6% (in July, the latest available data), and Spain at 26.6% in Septemer.

The lowest rates were in Austria (4.9%), Germany (5.2%) and Luxembourg (5.9%). Youth unemployment in the eurozone was 24.1%.

In the wider European Union the jobless rate was stable at 11% in September, with the number of people out of work up 61,000 to 26.87m.

Separate data from Eurostat showed a fall in eurozone annual inflation to 0.7% in October from 1.1% in September. It was the lowest level since November 2009.




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Gloomy news from Italy as the unemployment rate hit a new record high of 12.5% in September.

It was the highest since the statistics office records began in 1977, and compared with an upwardly revised rate of 12.4% in August. It was worse than the 12.3% predicted by economists.

Youth unemployment also rose to a fresh high of 40.4% from 40.2% a month earlier.

Italy's economy shrank in the third quarter, remaining in recession and lagging other eurozone economies which have started to grow again. Spain, which has been among the hardest hit eurozone economies, grew by 0.1% between July and September.

George NO. Ive made it pretty well known that Im a floating voter and have voted for both the 2 big partys. Democracy on the day played its part, we voted no because to put it bluntly,we think Cameron is a wassok and his policy on the EEC is letting UKIP steal Tory votes.

I must add at this point that I am also a member of both my local labour and liberal clubs.

Haystack - 31 Oct 2013 15:44 - 31975 of 31977

Why is queue jumping wrong. The UK is unusual in that we seem to treat queuing as normal. ..........ends

well first its derd ignorant, and secondly why should wealth decide the outcome of two individuals futures especially when those two individuals havent earnt any rights over each other.

Max.........Italy is employing my policy of younger workers in exchange for older workers and older workers will get full pension rights before pension retirement age.

Wouldn't appear to be doing much good looking at the figs gf.

more and more younger people now dont have that ignorant trait and KNOWLEDGE is the yardstick

is it now, and from where did you glean that little gem?
and having acquired knowledge, what do you suppose that person does with it?
by golly, you mean he goes out into the world and tries to better himself and his family with it?
and what do you mean by better himself?
surely not by getting a better job or even setting up his own business and growing that?
why would he do that?
to benefit himself and his family of course!

No not yet Max,recent introduction.

Italy is employing my policy of younger workers in exchange for older workers and older workers will get full pension rights before pension retirement age.

YOUR policy indeed!!!!
so with YOUR wonderful policy, how do you propose to fund the pensions for this sacked but useful and very experienced workforce?

as far as i can see, you and fred are all for pandering to those who just WANT for little or no effort and are happy to TAKE the handouts instead of encouraging people to ASPIRE UPWARDLY

Sticky SNR you really are coming over as a dinosaur. Your living in the past.

"and tries to better himself and his family with it?"........ends

more and more people world wide are staying single, didnt you realise that??????????

Greed isnt the gospel as you once knew it............more and more younger people are seeking individual attainment and liberation.

You really must watch THE X FACTOR, and BRITAINS GOT TALENT, Simon Cowel know s the crack im refering to. Educate yourself, better still put yourself up for a place in the BIG BROTHER HOUSE, your light years away from modern times and ways.

cynic - 31 Oct 2013 16:05 - 31983 of 31985

Italy is employing my policy of younger workers in exchange for older workers and older workers will get full pension rights before pension retirement age.

YOUR policy indeed!!!!
so with YOUR wonderful policy, how do you propose to fund the pensions for this sacked but useful and very experienced workforce? ........ends

Simple its a straight forward swap for benefits to pensions. GET IT......... less unemployment benefit paid means more money for pensions.

Im suprised you didnt see this on Newsnight last night and on SKY News.