goldfinger
- 09 Jun 2005 12:25
Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).
Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.
cheers GF.
cynic
- 01 Nov 2013 17:26
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once you get over € 1m income then a certain clobbering may not be unreasonable, but i was very much of the impression that it came in at about € 150,000 .... perhaps that was the original idea that had to be speedily binned
still, if you vote in a socialist gov't ..... !
the heron as frog-king is an inevitable parallel
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mind you, i'ld have thought red fred and possibly even sticky would be all in favour of this, even at the lower level, as surely that would be a wondrous way of redistributing wealth, and with no downside or backlash or other unforeseen negative result .... no doubt he/they will be puzzled why this simple and ever-so-obvious solution wasn't imposed by the previous bunch
of course, some of us will remember the era when tax was indeed confiscatory, with the result that the wealth-creators were disincentivised and there was also a huge surge in the black economy .... all a bit counter-productive one might conclude, or not, as the case may be
i suppose taxing 2nd, 3rd or 4th homes, even if abroad, would be much easier to impose and far less controversial :-)
Fred1new
- 01 Nov 2013 17:44
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Out of touch Manuel.
But to simplify, in some cases don't think it is unreasonable to have different tiers up to 75%, or more percent. The greed factor will drive them to work harder.
Often, it is how the raised “taxation” is utilised is the problem.
E.G.
It strikes me as suspect, having “taxation” distributed to bolster, or support (subsidise) the wages of a too lowly paid employee of a private company. The action can be seen as state intervention to subsidise the salaries of management and company owners. Often this being done at disproportionate levels to the value of the company products (goods or services) if based on market forces.
Where do you start and stop “state” interference in “business”?
Should state financial subsidy be given to any sector or business?
If so, for how long?
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Hays,
The French can let their rugby players go.
After a year or so, nobody will remember them and other players will take the places. (Market forces.)
Besides, England may then have a small chance of winning the Four Nations.
cynic
- 01 Nov 2013 17:54
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fred - surely even you can't be so stupid, or perhaps you can
what is the incentive to work harder and longer if almost all your reward is ripped off?
if "my company" is to be taxed at that level, why on earth would i bother to come or stay in uk?
terrific idea fred!
let's tax the successful to death to ensure there's no incentive for inward investment or even home-grown
that must be a really good way forward!!
Fred1new
- 01 Nov 2013 19:28
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Why do you consider running a "company" well and distributing "some" of the profits based on your "work force" a "rip off"?
Sure if there is a prospect of "development" (R&D etc.) provisions can be made for that.
Many doing research are happy to have their "ideas" exploited by said "entrepreneurs".
Some have not altruism bred out of them.
Try engaging the greying area of yourself and remember "what's it all about".
Many have died with others thinking of the good the did for others, rather than the good they did for themselves.
Fred1new
- 01 Nov 2013 19:30
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Manuel,
If you leave the UK, it is unlikely anybody will notice the hole you leave behind.
Try not to overvalue yourself.
Fred1new
- 01 Nov 2013 19:32
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For now, stop disturbing me as I am practising my "end games".
It seems appropriate somehow.
<80)
Chris Carson
- 01 Nov 2013 19:33
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Fred if you leave this , it is unlikely anybody will notice the hole you leave behind.
Give us all a break and Fxxx Offski!
cynic
- 01 Nov 2013 19:55
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fred - we have always run a profit-share scheme .... i guess that's why we keep all our staff, but there's a big difference between that and nearly all of it being expropriated by a rapacious exchequer to do with as it (but no one else) sees fit
what of course is so amusing is that you won't even vote
bah! i can think of nothing polite to say to you ... you're just so full of preposterous hard-left socialist (and worse) garbage that i cannot believe you want to live here rather than perhaps somewhere more suited to your apparent ideals like north korea .... no doubt the reality would be too tough for you
Fred1new
- 01 Nov 2013 20:20
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Cynic.
Just won an end game.
It seems that you are becoming more and more detached from reality as is Wavey Davey and his henchmen.
But must admit you surprise me that "you" run a profit-share scheme.
My "father's" pit had a similar scheme in the 1940's. It was profitable.
In the early 60s worked with a company who had a 3 monthly bonus scheme.
First time I was offered a job and told I could come back in two years time, if I wished to.
It was profitable.
cynic
- 01 Nov 2013 20:33
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shows how out of touch you are from the real world of today, merely forever harking back to "the good old days"
clearly you have reverted to the old "fos fred"
Fred1new
- 01 Nov 2013 21:44
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No. Just showing you, that you should catch up!
Haystack
- 02 Nov 2013 15:27
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Update - Labour lead at 4
by YouGov in Politics
Fri November 1, 2013 6 a.m. GMT
Latest YouGov / The Sun results 31st October - Con 35%, Lab 39%, LD 9%, UKIP 10%;
Stan
- 02 Nov 2013 17:08
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H/S, Its Saturday and it's time to be sociable so the only stats we need are those from Burnley's Division... OK? -):
Haystack
- 02 Nov 2013 17:10
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Burnley? What is a Burnley?
dreamcatcher
- 02 Nov 2013 17:23
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Prince Charles: One supports Burnley FC
Can we keep that rubbish on the football thread. :-))
Haystack
- 02 Nov 2013 17:42
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Is a Burnley like a Bramley? Are they both apples?
cynic
- 02 Nov 2013 18:02
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isn't burnley famous for black pudding?
dreamcatcher
- 02 Nov 2013 18:07
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Every week theres a pie competition to see who can eat the most pies but since theres only one person in the town he normally wins. It has also been noted that turnips seem to act as some form of currency in takeways but the mathematics behind this system have never been found out by outsiders.
Stan
- 02 Nov 2013 18:14
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"isn't burnley famous for black pudding?" No that's Bury.
H/S behave yourself... Ah the Charley boy from Wales fame D/C, I sometimes borrow his season ticket when he can't make it -):
cynic
- 02 Nov 2013 18:20
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Bury, Burnley and Bolton are all north of Watford and thus deemed to be one and the same .... Barnsley is a cousin once removed!