goldfinger
- 09 Jun 2005 12:25
Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).
Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.
cheers GF.
cynic
- 03 Nov 2013 15:45
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fred - as i'm bored with saying and you're bored with hearing, as a committed non-voter, your incessant whining and whingeing and sniping carries little credibility let alone value
Stan
- 03 Nov 2013 17:00
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"Alf - as i'm bored with saying and you're bored with hearing, as a committed "Con" Government - voter, your incessant whining and whingeing and sniping carries little credibility let alone value"
... Case rested -);
Fred1new
- 03 Nov 2013 17:31
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Manuel,
Thank you for your repeated opinion. Your brevity suits your abilities.
But the cartoons, or my postings, are at least seem to to be stimulating you, and with hope, to reflect a little..
Perhaps, with a bit of luck they may even change your narrow perspectives of life.
Have nice evening, while I finish my Rioja in my comfortable well padded armchair.
aldwickk
- 03 Nov 2013 17:32
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cynic
96% of the poster's on here agree with you , Stan doesn't but he can't even remember your name , poor soul. Must be to much time spent with Fred , his the same.
Haystack
- 03 Nov 2013 17:39
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A firm set up by one of Labour’s biggest donors has been helping union thugs who are running a campaign of intimidation.
The People’s Operator, a mobile phone company founded by multi-millionaire Andrew Rosenfeld – a close friend of Ed Miliband – gives free mobile calls and text messages to Unite members.
It signed a deal last year to supply phones to activists and funnel cash to the union.
A document drawn up by Unite reveals that strike committees get free calls and text messages to coordinate mob action.
The Mail revealed yesterday how Unite was carrying out a campaign of bullying and intimidation against senior managers during the bitter dispute over Grangemouth oil refinery.
The union’s so-called ‘leverage’ teams sent dozens of thugs to invade the driveway of a boss at the refinery in Scotland during a dispute this month – leaving his wife and children fearing for their safety.
David Cameron said the Mail’s revelations were ‘shocking’ and called on Mr Miliband to reopen a Labour investigation of Unite activities.
The Prime Minister said: ‘People have a right to protest. But no one has a right to intimidate, nobody has a right to bully.
The revelation that one of Labour’s biggest solo donors has been helping Unite came in a 50-page guide published by the union for its activists.
It details how they should identify ‘the potential vulnerabilities of the employer’ so they can hit them with leverage action.
The document states: ‘Leverage treats the employer as an opponent’ and advises ‘escalation is critical’.
It also reveals how Unite has used its relationship with The People’s Operator to facilitate industrial action, stating: ‘TPO (The People’s Operator) is a Unite-backed mobile phone operator providing cheap phone services to members and free TPO to TPO calls and text messaging.
'TPO sim cards should be provided to all contacts to enable free text messaging and calls between strike committee members and activists.’
Unite officials say the sim cards are paid for by strike committees themselves – but when they go on strike they can get funds to pay for them from the union.
The People’s Operator was set up last year and boasts that it helps its partners send money to ‘charities’ and other good causes.
Under the deal with Unite, the union is paid 10 per cent of the call, text or data spend of any members they sign up to the service.
Mr Rosenfeld, a former tax exile, has given Labour more than £663,000 since Mr Miliband became leader.
He has promised to give another £1million more in the run up to the next general election.
The Mail revealed yesterday how Unite leaders deployed a dirty tricks squad to target and humiliate executives of the Ineos chemical company and their families.
The leverage team sent mobs of protesters to the homes of senior figures in the firm, which owns the Grangemouth refinery.
The daughter of one company boss had ‘Wanted’ posters denouncing her father posted through her front door hundreds of miles away.
In a letter to Mr Miliband yesterday, Tory Chairman Grant Shapps called on the Labour leader to condemn Unite’s activities, asking: ‘Will you now refuse to accept any more money from Unite until those responsible for threatening innocent families are disciplined?’
Mr Miliband’s aides at first condemned the Tories for being ‘irresponsible by inflaming a difficult situation’.
But on viewing TV news coverage of the Mail story, Mr Miliband said: ‘I condemn intimidatory tactics. It is not how industrial disputes should be conducted. This is true for unions just as it is true for employers.’
Unite general secretary Len McCluskey refused to back down last night, making clear he would continue to advocate bully-boy tactics.
He told Channel 4 News: ‘It’s a small part of our leverage. We reserve the right to do anything within the law.’
A Unite spokesman said: ‘We work with TPO to provide our members the best mobile service at the lowest cost.
‘Trying to find something sinister in this is simply desperate.’
The Mail contacted the head office of The People’s Operator and asked for a response from Andrew Rosenfeld or the company but was told no one was available for comment.
Stan
- 03 Nov 2013 17:50
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What's the difference between Margaret Thatcher and Michael Jackson?... Thatcher didn't like miners.
Haystack
- 03 Nov 2013 17:53
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Unite general secretary Len McCluskey has denied fresh claims his union tried to thwart a Labour investigation into alleged vote rigging in Falkirk.
He also claimed emails suggesting Unite engaged in forgery and coercion were leaked to the Sunday Times as part of a Tory plot to discredit Ed Miliband.
The newspaper says the emails include details of an internal Labour report into the Falkirk debacle.
The Sunday Times said last week it had seen a cache of emails raising questions about whether Unite influenced the outcome of the inquiry.
In fresh revelations published on Sunday, the newspaper says it has seen 1,000 emails to and from Stephen Deans, chairman of the Falkirk Labour Party, which it says reveal the full extent of the plot to influence the selection process.
It also includes extracts of the internal Labour report - which has never been published by the party - in which Labour officials say there were "deliberate attempts to frustrate" interviews with some of the key witnesses.
The emails suggest that a letter retracting key evidence in the Labour investigation was not written by the witnesses but by union officials and approved by Mr Deans, according to the Sunday
Police in Scotland, who earlier this year dropped an investigation into the Falkirk allegations, are studying the leaked emails..
Stan
- 03 Nov 2013 18:01
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When I realised Margaret Thatcher was dead, I did a double fist pump and shouted, "Clucking brilliant!"
Everyone around me was disgusted, and looking back, I suppose it was out of order.
Especially as I was the first paramedic at the scene.
Fred1new
- 03 Nov 2013 18:13
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Hays,
It is seen by many, that the biggest firm of intimidation and protection rackets, which have been set up in this country, are the ones set up by the IDS and Theresa May, under a Con party's miss-administration, which has one one of the largest political donors called Ashcroft and has been helping party thugs and camp followers to run campaigns of intimidation.
(By the way when is he going to live in the UK and pay his full taxes which would then be due.) (A bit like the Mafia gangs in America being run from Italy.)
Also, do you think that the tory party doesn't fix things.
What about the promises of parachuting of Boris into a safe seat to bolster up the flagging or flogging party?
Abuse of power by both groups.
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I wouldn't wrap chips in the Mail, in case I was poisoned by the content, but I can see where you get your opinions from. The similarities are striking.
This Rioja is better the longer I leave it open.
Fred1new
- 03 Nov 2013 18:14
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PS.
At least Mr Rosenfeld seems to be returning home.
Haystack
- 03 Nov 2013 18:35
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The second report was the BBC.
Stan
- 03 Nov 2013 18:42
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"There is no such thing as society" - Margaret Thatcher, 1988.
"There is no such thing as Margaret Thatcher" - Society, 2013.
Fred1new
- 03 Nov 2013 18:47
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Stop hiding behind it wasn't me guv.
You delighted in posting it as a third report from one or other area of your body!
8-)
Ps.
At one time I often received "sponsorship" and was grateful for it. It didn't alter my opinions, whether stated or otherwise, nor actions in relationship to those companies.
Haystack
- 03 Nov 2013 19:16
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The "no such thing as society" is obviously not understood by you.
MaxK
- 03 Nov 2013 19:32
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Stan
- 03 Nov 2013 20:15
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It's understood by more people then you know.
Haystack
- 03 Nov 2013 20:24
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Obviously not. Have you ever seen the actual interview? If you had then you would have a different view.
Stan
- 03 Nov 2013 20:31
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The "actual" words are pretty irrelevant, but the sentiment and meaning is well documented in the declining standards for the masses of people in the history of this Country.
Haystack
- 03 Nov 2013 20:56
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I am afraid you don't understand the sentiment behind the words. The words are correct but misinterpretted by some.
Stan
- 03 Nov 2013 20:57
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No that's not correct.