Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

I am afraid you don't understand the sentiment behind the words. The words are correct but misinterpretted by some.

No that's not correct.

Dumb & Dumber are busy posting tonight , very sad nothing else to do on a Sunday night.

SHOULD Mitchell be re-instated to the govt, cabinet???????????.

Answer NO.

He still swore at those coppers and called them fcuking barstewards.

When I was a kid and had you done that a copper would have smashed you in the face or clouted you with his truncheon.

The coppers lied obviously after the incident and should be sacked immediatly or prosecuted, but Mitchell is a nasty toff with a nasty ignorant upper class attitude.

No way should that man play any part in any partys cabinet.

This pretty much the quote, although I have seen slightly longer versions.

We've been through a period where too many people have been given to understand that if they have a problem, it's the government's job to cope with it. 'I have a problem, I'll get a grant.' 'I'm homeless, the government must house me.' They're casting their problem on society. And there is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first. It's our duty to look after ourselves and then, also to look after our neighbour. People have got the entitlements too much in mind, without the

It is really about self reliance. 'Society' is a very nebulous thing and difficult to discern its properties.

Fred
There is nothing specifically wrong with swearing at anyone including police. It looks like the police were being especially difficult in making him use a different gate. They probably needed swearing at.

Ohhhhh yes their is. Next youl have kids openly swearing at school teachers and parents.

The fabric of society breaks down.

Hays Hays Hays........dropping further......

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Hays Hays Hays........dropping further......

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re #32119

Spot on!

Max are you sure, it looks like someone who is pissed as posted that.

"And there is no such thing as society." At last... Thank you H/S for proving my point.

You obviously still do not understand it.

Why do you say that gf?

The statement is correct, you can stake your fortune on the states ability to fund you throughout your life, or you can work for a better future through your own efforts.

What is it to be?

How many life styles can the "state" support before it goes bust, along with you and me?

Swearing at police is not a crime, judge rules

Swearing at police is not a crime because officers hear foul language “too frequently” to be offended, a judge has ruled.

Swearing at police 'is no longer an offence'

Officers have been banned from arresting yobs who insult them with the most offensive swear-words in the language.

Secret guidance issued to front-line police tells them not to act because the courts will not believe they have been upset by the abuse.

The Metropolitan Police, Britain’s largest constabulary with more than 32,000 officers, has issued a card, designed to be kept behind a warrant badge, telling officers to do nothing if they are abused by a member of the public.

The memory aid states: ‘The courts do not accept that police officers are caused harassment, alarm or distress by words such as ‘f***, c***, b*******, w******.’

Many judges and magistrates have taken the view that police officers should have a thicker skin than ordinary members of the public. As a result police must prove that someone else found the suspect’s behaviour ‘abusive’ or ‘insulting’.

Max for a kick off, one word is missed in the intial post and secondly it wasnt Fred who started the dabate on Mitchell it was me.

Yep its petty .........best forgotten but I dare bet Hays had some kind of ale last night. LOL.

As for hays saying its OK to swear at police officers.

Jesus, now come on, what sort of society do you really want.

Its bad enough people swearing at each other, its about time MANNERS were taught at home again.

ps, what were you drinking last night hays.

"You obviously still do not understand it."

Oh please, do grow up H/S my case is proven despite your ridiculous excuses.

GF.

Thanks for correction, but I agree with sentiment of the post.

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Generally swearing and cursing does not "worry" me and my flow of language can often be very descriptive of an individual's forebears. But, strangely I dislike hearing swearing on the TV as humour or as general punctuation in plays. (Although, I can see an outburst as funny.)

However, in the Mitchell affair I see it as an arrogant attempt by a disgruntled Mitchell to intimidate and appear authoritative to the police officers concerned, and "telling" them their place in comparison to himself. It could be constructed as "threatening" intimidation and is covered in law.


(I.e he was one of the governing class, not one of the public.)

(The police seemed to acting to rules, but I suspect that there may have been previous similar minor "confrontations" or "disagreements" before the reported event.)

To me, it was a minor abuse of public office by Mitchell. I expect that if he had had the grace to apologise at the time, it would have blown over.

He didn't, he dug in and cost the TAX PAYER over half a million pounds for his conceit.

The police, if they falsified evidence (by summarising) should be reprimanded, Mitchell should give a public apology and all should "move on".