cynic
- 20 Oct 2007 12:12
rather than pick out individual stocks to trade, it can often be worthwhile to trade the indices themselves, especially in times of high volatility.
for those so inclined, i attach below charts for FTSE and FTSE 250, though one might equally be tempted to trade Dow or S&P, which is significantly broader in its coverage, or even NASDAQ
for ease of reading, i have attached 1 year and 3 month charts in each instance
cynic
- 28 Nov 2007 21:11
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and in fact got stopped out of Dow at 13260 ..... oh dear! .... only +352 in 24 hours or so ..... bank manager will be very pleased .... meanwhile, FTSE position still alive and +198 ..... wow! to think i nearly shut it down this morning when all looking a bit dodgy
spitfire43
- 28 Nov 2007 21:43
- 323 of 21973
Like the analogy. Have been sidelined for last week licking my wounds, but will take a position on FTSE tomorrow, favouring a long at the moment but will decide in morning. Can't let you chaps have all the fun.
cynic
- 29 Nov 2007 08:28
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DOW
looking back at an old(ish) chart, 13255 was an important resistance/support ..... i think that chart still holds good, but shall try to check during the day .... if it is still valid, then be prepared for a reaction, perhaps quite sharp, especially given the headlong rush upwards of the last couple of days
cynic
- 29 Nov 2007 08:52
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FTSE
was stopped out at 6315, but scarcely complaining even if market has turned back north once more.
in honesty, i am now more inclined to be short of the indices than long, as there is a strong likelihood that the recovery has been too mcuh too fast ...... but may well just stay neutral
spitfire43
- 29 Nov 2007 09:28
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I'm also leaning towards shorting in general, but today feel more inclined to go long, will wait for ftse to settle down first. It's a hard call today because I wouldn't be surprised to see a pullback at some stage.
Might even sit today out if not sure.
BigTed
- 29 Nov 2007 09:29
- 327 of 21973
buy when red, sell when blue...
cynic
- 29 Nov 2007 09:40
- 328 of 21973
how red and how blue? ...... far too simplistic a statement
Stan
- 29 Nov 2007 10:00
- 329 of 21973
Simplicity can often be the best policy..but not always.
BigTed
- 29 Nov 2007 10:12
- 330 of 21973
in today's market, would rather buy when all doom and gloom then gamble on a fools rally (ie after 3/4 days of gains...) lets face it, the bad news from the states is far from over...
ptholden
- 29 Nov 2007 10:48
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Ted, you are totally right re bad news, problem is the yanks don't seem to be bothered by that rather salient fact, quite nuts!!
cynic
- 29 Nov 2007 10:53
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have decided that shorting the indices at current levels is too risky and shall stay neutral for the time being
Stan .... do not confuse simplicity with simplistic!
spitfire43
- 29 Nov 2007 10:55
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decided to sit on my hands today, no real direction on the ftse, would favour going short now. But too much of a gamble.
Stan
- 29 Nov 2007 10:57
- 334 of 21973
I was confusing nothing.
cynic
- 29 Nov 2007 11:44
- 335 of 21973
good for you! ....... anyway, i have concluded that shorting more SOLA is a much better and safer propostion for now .... see that thread
spitfire43
- 30 Nov 2007 11:13
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Here goes, gone long FTSE 6387.
Hopefully with Bernanke speach last night we are in for a bullish day.
We will see.
HARRYCAT
- 30 Nov 2007 11:17
- 337 of 21973
DOW futures currently +75, so the usual friday sell off looking unlikely, imo.
Quite a large number of companies go ex-divi next week, LSE, VED, ABF & TL. just to mention a few, so next week will see a few adjustments to the share prices.
spitfire43
- 30 Nov 2007 11:33
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As you say Friday sell off looking unlikely, but I have protected my position with a generous stop/loss. So hopefully in play for this afternoon.
spitfire43
- 30 Nov 2007 14:20
- 339 of 21973
Closed long position for a 40 point gain at 6427. Pleased with that.
I believe FTSE could go a little higher, but I will sit today out now, and look to Monday. Good luck to any traders out there today.
spitfire43
- 30 Nov 2007 14:29
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FTSE up 95 now to 6445, looking a little toppy to me with DOW futures only 138 up, but not brave enough to short today, the trend would be against me. And I dont want to give the profits today straight back.
HARRYCAT
- 30 Nov 2007 14:45
- 341 of 21973
Just as a matter of interest, spitfire (or anyone), what %age profit would you expect to make on an average week spreadbetting or CFDs? Don't reveal your stake.
I am just interested how much people make going long or short on stocks or indices, as I only trade stocks conventionally, but as things get more tricky then may have to look to other means.
Generally, over the last 3 years I make approx 25% p.a. on my equities, but is that realistic trading CFDs or spreadbetting?