Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Paxman on not voting

"By the time the polls had closed and it was too late to take part, I was feeling really uncomfortable: the person who chooses not to vote - cannot even be bothered to write 'none of the above' on a ballot paper - disqualifies himself from passing any comment at all."

Exec,

"It also goes some way to explaining why Cameron has agreed to pay the political strategist Lynton Crosby, the so-called Wizard of Oz, a stupendous £500,000 to help the Tories win the election."

Not nice work if you can get it, or afford to pay for it.

But Ed Miliband has and is taking his time and thinking out his policies and the public are seemingly beginning to be swayed by him, while Cameron and cronies are seen to be behaving as out of touch "posh boys and girls", who are relying on smearing and maligning him.

Also, they are becoming amused by flustering and blustering Cameron finger jabbing at PMQs.

At the same time, they are issuing ill-thought out policies which they u-turn on them moments later, when the PR backfires on them and they aren’t swallowed by the public.

Coupled with future possible failures of the NHS during the coming winter, their actions will suggest that the NHS is now longer safe in tory hands and the reorganisations they have carried out to be a disaster. A bigger threat to the tories is that the failures may be seen by the public as attempts to produce a future dismantling of the NHS.

Another problems for their “lordships” is the effects of policies on the low paid employed and unemployed will be hitting home, it will be a stormy 15-18 months for the party of Con Party MPs.



As far as the Press is concerned they had their chance to control themselves and failed miserably.

They have had more than one chance.

Seemingly the revelations from Rebecca and Andy, don’t make the editorship, the moguls, or their friends smell any better.

But, I prefer self censorship, or at least an honest unbiased arbitrator.

How do you get the latter?

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I know, have Manuel and Hays on the committee. 8-)

Exactly Fred, camoron as become more aggresive over the last few sessions as Crosby dictates his performance.

Now this may work in the land of OZ but it wont work here.

Already the British public have picked up on it.

I did remark last week on this thread I though fat Dave was going to blow up at one time in PMQs.

Milly just keeps calm and thats why is personal ratings are getting better.

Once again, what had Cameron lied about?

Possibly, getting up in the morning!

all politicians, and seemingly a great many senior police officers, are habitual liars :-)

If you are referring to Pleb gate, I think you have got it right.

Having agreed with you, I will now have a lie down.

Hays said.......... Haystack - 05 Nov 2013 14:31 - 32232 of 32235
Once again, what had Cameron lied about?...................ends.

Well for a kick off and this is just the start the deficit where he kept on quite clearly on a PARTY POLITICAL broadcast saying that he was getting DEBT down. Its the deficit they have got down but even thats come to a halt.

NOT TRUE, debt has risen far quicker under this government than under labour.

He was forced to give an apology to the house.

3 other occasions aswel where he has had to do similar.

Camoron is a born liar.

Hays still short on BLNX.....hope not.

would that plebgate were the oddity

Cameron telling porkies many cases.................


http://www.lettingagenttoday.co.uk/news_features/Cameron-accused-of-misleading-Parliament-over-PRS-claim

AND


PM “Misleading Parliament on Housing Benefit Reforms” for Private ...www.sfha.co.uk/hst/...misleading-parliament.../menu-id-29.html‎CachedPM “Misleading Parliament on Housing Benefit Reforms” for Private Rented Sector, ... David Cameron was "wrong when he told Parliament this week that cutting

and....

http://www.pne-online.net/forum/showthread.php?83132-Is-Cameron-deliberately-misleading-parliament

and.............http://chilcotscheatingus.blogspot.co.uk/2011/06/death-of-david-kelly-david-cameron.html


AND..................................


the list just goes on and on.

Cameron is a liar and people wont vote for him.

GF.

You are wrong, unfortunately, Cameron was born a baby.

A lieing baby then Fred.

"Stan - i don't suppose your consultancy advice is worth any more than 6p an hour, and that's to anyone who would even employ you in any field ..... i certainly wouldn't"

Alf, I am prepared to negotiate, I'm prepared to knock half the vat off for cash... very fair I think that you will agree... comes to only £600+half the vat now.

A big difference between telling lies and being wrong. I still see no lies.

€urope pre election promise out the window.

Don't blame the lib/dims, a promise is a promise. (but of course, he never meant to keep it anyway)

When was the pre-election EU vote promise made?

Before the election.

But it got modified.

Europe

The Conservative party supports "an open, flexible Europe"

Specific European Union policies include:
A full opt-out from the Charter of Fundamental Rights
Greater protection against EU encroachment
Restoring national control over social and employment legislation


Specific education policies include:

Raising the entry requirement for taxpayer-funded primary teacher training
Requiring new graduates to have at least a 2:2 in their degree to get state-funded training
Paying the student loan repayments for top maths and science graduates while they remain teachers
Giving teachers the strongest possible protection from false accusations
Strengthening home-school behaviour contracts
Establishing a simple reading test at the age of six
Reforming the National Curriculum
Overhauling Key Stage 2 tests and league tables
Allowing all state schools to offer high quality international examinations
Giving parents the power to save schools threatened by closure
Extra funding for children from disadvantaged backgrounds
Providing 10,000 university places this year, paid for by giving graduates incentives to pay back their loans early

They forgot to mention raising uni fee's.