Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

MaxK
You can't have a Conservative government with a coalition. Cameron's hands are tied. The trouble is that we are not used to having a coalition government where our favoured party cannot do what they really want. The Conservatives and the Libs are getting a lot of stick from their supporters as they don't get the policies that they want.

I am not sure what you expect from a Conservative government.

Twaddle!

He could hold a referendum tomorrow if he wanted. (ok, a couple of months time)

The Libs would howl and screetch, but what could they do?

To go against would destroy them.

What would the referendum be on? It would have to be and 'in or out' vote. Cameron's view is that we should attempt to attempt to get a better deal from the EU and then offer that or 'out' to the voters. That represents a better choice. A vote now would be a choice between 'out' or accepting the EU exactly as it is.

The Libs could screetch and howl and they could vote it down with Labour's help.

Well after all that huff an puff there won't be a referendum as Cameron chances of an winning the next election are dismal for tory followers and he doesn't want out anyway and will make excuses if it came to it and pressure for staying in the EU with all the bits and pieces.

I think Ed and majority of Labour party are for a more integrated Europe and will avoid a referendum and if the tie up with the remnants of the Lib/dems they will a working majority.

Well after all that huff an puff there won't be a referendum as Cameron chances of an winning the next election are dismal for tory followers and he doesn't want out anyway and will make excuses if it came to it and pressure for staying in the EU with all the bits and pieces.

I think Ed and majority of Labour party are for a more integrated Europe and will avoid a referendum and if the tie up with the remnants of the Lib/dems they will a working majority.

"Its not a conservative government Stan, and that's the problem." I'm afraid it is Max as far as going back to the early 80's tactics is concerned, which is what this lot are up to now.

The tacticts were correct. It is about supply-side economic policies.

Yes, that's right, pump house prices and hope for the best.

Bollox to the rest of the economy, get the feelgood factor into place.

Don't mention the 1 hour contracts

Don't mention the social dumping (immigration)

Dont mention the real cut in wages

Dont mention real unemployment

Dont mention the real costs of welfare



In fact, airbrush all the real problems away, cos this bunch of incompetants are incapable of solving anything.

People moving increases demand in the economy

1 or 0 hour contracts have been around for years and around 80% of those workers like the system because of its flexibility

You are bound to get cuts in living standards in a recession if you want to get out of it. The alternative is deeper into debt.

Unemployment rises in a recession.

Welfare costs need to be reduced.

I think you mental health problems Haystack.

Certainly doesnt understand Economics and thats for sure.

Another day, another Tory Party mess involving money, The latest Corrupt "Con" Government M.P. alert? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-24827405

MARK PRITHARD . yes being a tory MP is only a part time job .
greed is the word he does not give a toss for being MP for is voters
he should resign in shame but he will not .
MY PARTY THE CONSERVATIVES are now a party of liars and crooks

vote UKIP.
as a tory I would now sooner vote for lab unbelievable

Senior Conservative MP uses political contacts to further business empire

A senior Conservative MP offered to use his political contacts to set up business deals with foreign officials and ministers in return for being paid hundreds of thousands of pounds, The Telegraph can disclose.

the tape says it all and is voice not any one else
guilty corruption for is own ends

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Morning TANKER have you been on holiday?, said you were packing your case last time you were here.

Nick Robinson ‏@bbcnickrobinson 19m
BREAKING NEWS shipbuilding to stop at portsmouth...................


I said we were becoming a nation of TILL PINGERS.

Mark Pritchard, the Conservative MP for The Wrekin and former secretary of the influential 1922 Committee, told an undercover reporter that he could use his “network” to set up meetings with politicians in countries where he had parliamentary connections.


Mr Pritchard sits on official parliamentary groups for many of those countries where, in return for payment, he was offering to broker investments and to arrange meetings with senior government figures.


Parliamentary rules ban MPs from seeking to profit from their positions and warns politicians to avoid any potential conflict of interest.


Mr Pritchard also stands accused of using a Nato parliamentary assembly to discuss business opportunities with contacts.


The MP suggested that the undercover reporter, posing as a foreign businessman, should invest £10 million in a group of boutique hotels in Albania. Mr Pritchard was formerly the chairman of the all party parliamentary group (APPG) for the country and is still a member of the committee.

two interesting sides to the above .....
you can argue no smoke without fire or that the Fascist Gazette is gunning for this chap as apparently he has sued and won against them previously

gold yes been away going away on 13th dec for 3 weeks going to get a bit of sun

now thinking of be coming a corrupt MP and be a con
who says being a crook does not pay
IF YOU BECOME A MP it does pay big time and you do not have to be clever
just street wise and dishonest are the degrees needed