goldfinger
- 09 Jun 2005 12:25
Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).
Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.
cheers GF.
Fred1new
- 06 Nov 2013 21:33
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Hays.
You are being comical again.
Should read The Comedians * GG same humour.
"Not a good result for Milibland as Labour has 258 MPs. So not all Of Labour were on Milibland's side and the 57 Libs didn't vote for him. That's apart from the other 28 odds and sods parties. A bit embarrassing really for Labour."
I would have thought that it was a good result for Ed.
If he goes into the election pointing out that caring parties "tories and Lib/Dems" voted against keeping a "check" on the energy bills and trying to reduce the "deaths" for some of the "less fortunate" from hypothermia and couple that with the warnings he has given on the A+Es I would think he is onto a winner.
Mind the reverse may appeal to the "we are all in it together party" .
We will see.
goldfinger
- 06 Nov 2013 23:33
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Good point made Fred.
Stan
- 07 Nov 2013 06:37
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Fred rarely makes anything other then Good points G/F as we know.
Stan
- 07 Nov 2013 07:02
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cynic
- 07 Nov 2013 08:39
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certainly fred is under the illusion that he only makes good points :-)
his arse must be smothered in your lipstick!
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one of you red-legs commented yesterday that BAE was only shedding jobs in Portsmouth, and that that was pretty much just a political manoeuvre.
you're wrong (of course), as i recollect that sadly almost the same number of jobs are to be cut north of the border ..... fingers x'ed that just perhaps all this will not come to pass
MaxK
- 07 Nov 2013 08:44
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MaxK
- 07 Nov 2013 08:53
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MaxK
- 07 Nov 2013 08:57
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cynic
- 07 Nov 2013 08:57
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an almost sadder sign of the times was the sight of a truly gargantuan crane being towed - it took 3 months! - from Korea (or was it China?) to Thames Gateway, the off-loading being supervised by an Ozzie
MaxK
- 07 Nov 2013 09:12
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Cranes from China, trains from Germany, nuc power plants from France and China.
Is there any political will to make anything in this country anymore?
Fred1new
- 07 Nov 2013 09:35
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MK,
Britain is becoming a Russian, Asian, Chinese, Colony and Wavey Dave and Georgie Boy are encouraging it, while at the same time being euro-phobic.
Ludicrous when you don't want to speak with your neighbours with often similar culture who have across a brook, but willing to have others from far distance across the planet take over ones economy by less than stealth.
Mind I suppose the present crew can shift their "wealth" to the Cayman Isles and the like.
cynic
- 07 Nov 2013 09:58
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stop being a total arsehole fred .... well, i guess one can live in hope rather than expectation
uk has been in manufacturing decline since the end of WW1 ..... one could cogently argue that the death-knell was significantly hastened by the militant unions in the 50's and 60s - i can just remember a shipyard strike called because of a dispute over which union should be in charge of drawing a chalk line on steel plates! - resulting in uk becoming hopelessly uncompetitive and also unreliable on delivery
in fact, most if not all major international deals are now a delicate matter of (effectively) gov'ts negotiating a mutually beneficial trade-off as opposed to my tin of beans being cheaper than yours
goldfinger
- 07 Nov 2013 10:12
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HEY cyners it wasnt just Unions, management where just as Much to blame.
I remember in the car industry when we led it and we could see the likes of Germany Japan re-tooling up and bringing in prod belts. The unions could see this and were demanding british management re tool.......... but Ohhhhhhhhhhh no they knew best, we keep to what weve got (GREED) and then when it was too late what happens they demanded reduncancies.
Of course the Unions were millitant after that.
goldfinger
- 07 Nov 2013 10:13
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AND dont forget this it was Maggie T who pushed the service and banking sector in this country and neglected manufacturing.
aldwickk
- 07 Nov 2013 10:25
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cynic
his arse must be smothered in your lipstick!
How very dare you , are you sugesting that Fred and Stan are batting for the other side ?
aldwickk
- 07 Nov 2013 10:35
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goldfinger
Smart move by Mrs T , look how London became one of the top financal city's in the world when our manufacturing industries were being destroyed by the unions
cynic
- 07 Nov 2013 10:37
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i fully concur .... uk management was abysmal right the way across the board ..... but on whomever you wish to pin blame, it is irrefutable that uk manufacturing was in terminal decline - too expensive; inefficient; plain incompetence - since WW1
however, all countries go through this manufaturing cycle, as is seen in Japan and now starting to happen in India, Korea and elsewhere
cynic
- 07 Nov 2013 10:43
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revolving door like some of his payments and deals!
goldfinger
- 07 Nov 2013 10:46
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aldwickk - 07 Nov 2013 10:35 - 32348 of 32350
goldfinger
Smart move by Mrs T , look how London became one of the top financal city's in the world when our manufacturing industries were being destroyed by the unions.............ens
Well partly agree alders with your London comment in fact London is nos 1, but management greedy management ruined manufacturing here in this country, and yes I know it could be done in korea far cheaper etc etc, but certain bespoke top tech firms here eg, Top textile class suits made in Huddersfield couldnt be replicated anywhere, but what happened they wanted to make them cheaper so DID take them abroad BUT NO SKILLED LABOUR....within 4 years total industry ruined and went under.
What a great loss.