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FTSE + FTSE 250 - consider trading (FTSE)     

cynic - 20 Oct 2007 12:12

rather than pick out individual stocks to trade, it can often be worthwhile to trade the indices themselves, especially in times of high volatility.

for those so inclined, i attach below charts for FTSE and FTSE 250, though one might equally be tempted to trade Dow or S&P, which is significantly broader in its coverage, or even NASDAQ

for ease of reading, i have attached 1 year and 3 month charts in each instance

cynic - 14 Oct 2008 13:48 - 3235 of 21973

DOW looking overexcited to me .... have already banked decent profits from FTSE this morning and have just taken out a modest short on Dow with quite a tight stop in place .... a good hedge in any case

Strawbs - 14 Oct 2008 13:58 - 3236 of 21973

I wouldn't be surprised to see an attempt at 10K ... phsycological level and all that. 5K on the FTSE likewise. Reaching it will be one thing....sustaining it another.

Strawbs.

cynic - 14 Oct 2008 14:04 - 3237 of 21973

perhaps, but given that Dow rose 900 from its low point yesterday and was indicating an opening high of +455 at 9898, i figured my short at 9847 was a pretty good bet, and in any case, if wrongly called, my other stocks would (probably) benefit further

Strawbs - 14 Oct 2008 14:11 - 3238 of 21973

Huge rises back to back does seem a little unlikely, but this market seems very much "buy everything" or "sell everything" at the moment, without much waiting in between. After marching to the top of the hill, they'll probably decide to run back down again. :-)

Strawbs.

ptholden - 14 Oct 2008 14:18 - 3239 of 21973

Richard, I have yr mobile number, ends in a 5

cynic - 14 Oct 2008 14:22 - 3240 of 21973

that's the one!

cynic - 14 Oct 2008 14:46 - 3241 of 21973

well that was a good call, and have banked the profit on Dow at 9681 ..... bit slow on the button, but still more than happy ..... now watching to see what happens next - currently trying to head south again

Strawbs - 14 Oct 2008 14:59 - 3242 of 21973

Well done. Seems to be running out of steam (looking at the DOW figure on the CNBC website anyway). Looking at my watchlist I assume FTSE is coming off too...

Strawbs.

cynic - 14 Oct 2008 15:06 - 3243 of 21973

FTSE now only +120 ..... went long Dow again at an average of 9563, but shall watch like a hawk and assuredly not be greedy

Strawbs - 14 Oct 2008 15:10 - 3244 of 21973

Make sure you don't give it all back.... ;-)

Can't be that easy to make money surely.... LOL.

Strawbs.

cynic - 14 Oct 2008 15:38 - 3245 of 21973

it's a damn sight easier when poxy clients don't call just when you are about to close!

BigTed - 14 Oct 2008 17:19 - 3246 of 21973

Poxy clients... lol, Richard, your number start with a '0'? and also a '7'...?
Well i did state you have to buy when everyone is predicting the world to end... have closed a couple positions today and (prematurely) yesterday, i believe consolidation today before push to 10,200 although haven't checked for an hour or so, - could easily be below 9000 now!

cynic - 14 Oct 2008 17:32 - 3247 of 21973

currently farting around the 9400 level

Strawbs - 15 Oct 2008 15:51 - 3248 of 21973

Equity market "happy pills" have worn off I see....

Strawbs.

dealerdear - 15 Oct 2008 16:01 - 3249 of 21973

biggest one day drop on the cards.

some miners down 25%

BG down 12%!

required field - 15 Oct 2008 16:03 - 3250 of 21973

No end to this......!,

required field - 15 Oct 2008 16:10 - 3251 of 21973

What bothers me is : Are we heading for a dramatic drop ? all of a sudden !....I bloody hope not ! (sorry about the swear word !), because then we will be looking at the 1930's again !.

Strawbs - 15 Oct 2008 16:11 - 3252 of 21973

The end will probably come when the speculators run out of money.... These constant swings are a sure sign people are just gambling, not investing. Same thing happened in 1929 as Galbraith pointed out in his book.

In my opinion.

Strawbs.

dealerdear - 15 Oct 2008 16:12 - 3253 of 21973

Don't worry about it.

I think it is forced selling by Hedge funds with their margain calls. It isn't a reflection of any company.

dealerdear - 15 Oct 2008 16:14 - 3254 of 21973

and also strawbs, my understanding is that these massive swings are a sign that a bottom is being reached.

Perhaps you'll correct me with your grasp of hisory which to be frank 'I ain't got mate' ;-)

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