Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

Its what they do. That's why Labour and the SNP want to lower the voting age. Eventually they grow up, have responsibilities and recognise the error of their ways. With some notable exceptions.

If UK stays ın EU then I have made my fınal vote.


Is it worth the aggravation
To find yourself a job when there's nothing worth working for?
It's a crazy situation
But all I need are cigarettes and alcohol

Coming of Age.

Well I watched that referendum prog with Paxman after the football , felt good because Italy got beat , but thought it poor , too much interference even from Paxman , too limited a time on subjects , why oh why do we constantly have to have celebrity input . Sheila Hancock , Sandie Shaw , what was that all about , dreadful .

Yes and didn't you just wish that Anna Soubry would shut up !

3236 - certainly my younger son will vote "remain" ...... don't know the intent of my other two children, but i'm pretty confident they won't abdicate responsibility

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fred - will you break the habit of a lifetime and actually cast a vote?

More likely to give up life.

one can but live in hope

It was just one big stitch up..I've never seen such a BIASED debate in my life.

When it was the LEAVERS chance to speak they got totally blanked, and the
time Paxman asked Hilton a question, that Starkey twat interupted and
Paxman just let him carry on until Hilton pulled paxman up and said he'd just
asked him a question but was not allowed to start it never mind finish it..


It was a total disgrace and that hancock was a dozy rambling trollop.

That Soubry bint is a piece of work.

Dave missed an opportunity there, he should have got her to negotiate with the €urobuns, they wouldn't have stood a chance.

GB - interesting you should say that ..... yesterday evening's news was also heavily slanted in favour of "remain" and in some quite subtle ways too ..... my wife was very cross and nearly phoned BBC to complain

She should do

but more importantly whatever the result - don't vote for those core parties/individuals ever again

Use your vote wisely

Light a bonfire with it!

Complaining to the BBC is probably a waste of time , having watched points of view a few times in the past , they just brush it off really .

V - absolutely so and it's after the event anyway


REFERENDUM RESULT
i am very happy to live with whatever result comes in, though "remain" is pretty much a racing certainty
i just hope that it will be close enough to ignite a strong movement across many eu member states for root and branch reform, for in truth that is what is really required

it seems to have been forgotten that the whole basic concept was to form a strong economic bloc, which would inevitably have some political undertones
now, it is almost entirely political - eg full speed ahead for a federal europe - with the true economic concept almost tertiary or lower

the obese plutocracy that runs the whole jamboree has similarly become obscenely wasteful in almost every way imaginable

Yet people vote for more.

Confirmation, if required.

Yes if we vote to ''remain'' then perhaps another EU member will have the courage and good sense to do what we have failed to do.
2517

George they will be stitched up similar to us no doubt , if the EU wanted in anyway to reform they would have now acted to snuff trouble out . I personally think they will bunker down and wait for it to pass over , then hit us with their tortuous tirade and one thing we can say is to people is , Well you voted for it .

If EU dırectıves get more than a bıt pernicious should UK stay ın. Then we may get a poll tax "Cant pay, wont pay" moment.