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Referendum : to be in Europe or not to be ?, that is the question ! (REF)     

required field - 03 Feb 2016 10:00

Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

grannyboy - 23 Jun 2016 08:30 - 3256 of 12628

It was just one big stitch up..I've never seen such a BIASED debate in my life.

When it was the LEAVERS chance to speak they got totally blanked, and the
time Paxman asked Hilton a question, that Starkey twat interupted and
Paxman just let him carry on until Hilton pulled paxman up and said he'd just
asked him a question but was not allowed to start it never mind finish it..


It was a total disgrace and that hancock was a dozy rambling trollop.

MaxK - 23 Jun 2016 08:40 - 3257 of 12628

That Soubry bint is a piece of work.

Dave missed an opportunity there, he should have got her to negotiate with the €urobuns, they wouldn't have stood a chance.

cynic - 23 Jun 2016 08:44 - 3258 of 12628

GB - interesting you should say that ..... yesterday evening's news was also heavily slanted in favour of "remain" and in some quite subtle ways too ..... my wife was very cross and nearly phoned BBC to complain

Joe Say - 23 Jun 2016 08:46 - 3259 of 12628

She should do

but more importantly whatever the result - don't vote for those core parties/individuals ever again

Use your vote wisely

Fred1new - 23 Jun 2016 08:50 - 3260 of 12628

Light a bonfire with it!

VICTIM - 23 Jun 2016 08:54 - 3261 of 12628

Complaining to the BBC is probably a waste of time , having watched points of view a few times in the past , they just brush it off really .

cynic - 23 Jun 2016 09:00 - 3262 of 12628

V - absolutely so and it's after the event anyway


REFERENDUM RESULT
i am very happy to live with whatever result comes in, though "remain" is pretty much a racing certainty
i just hope that it will be close enough to ignite a strong movement across many eu member states for root and branch reform, for in truth that is what is really required

it seems to have been forgotten that the whole basic concept was to form a strong economic bloc, which would inevitably have some political undertones
now, it is almost entirely political - eg full speed ahead for a federal europe - with the true economic concept almost tertiary or lower

the obese plutocracy that runs the whole jamboree has similarly become obscenely wasteful in almost every way imaginable

MaxK - 23 Jun 2016 09:02 - 3263 of 12628

Yet people vote for more.

Confirmation, if required.

2517GEORGE - 23 Jun 2016 09:05 - 3264 of 12628

Yes if we vote to ''remain'' then perhaps another EU member will have the courage and good sense to do what we have failed to do.
2517

VICTIM - 23 Jun 2016 09:12 - 3265 of 12628

George they will be stitched up similar to us no doubt , if the EU wanted in anyway to reform they would have now acted to snuff trouble out . I personally think they will bunker down and wait for it to pass over , then hit us with their tortuous tirade and one thing we can say is to people is , Well you voted for it .

Claret Dragon - 23 Jun 2016 09:16 - 3266 of 12628

If EU dırectıves get more than a bıt pernicious should UK stay ın. Then we may get a poll tax "Cant pay, wont pay" moment.

will10 - 23 Jun 2016 09:22 - 3267 of 12628

At long last team UK gets to have their say.
Ft poll of polls has Remain on 47% and Brexit 45%. Too close to call. but hoping for small win for the In vote.
All over in less than 24 hours either way

Good luck

cynic - 23 Jun 2016 09:25 - 3268 of 12628

currency markets look certain that "remain" will win .... eg - USD is now 1.4760 whereas it was below 1.42 just a few days ago

MaxK - 23 Jun 2016 09:41 - 3269 of 12628

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Never give a sucker an even break

cynic - 23 Jun 2016 10:40 - 3270 of 12628

corbyn has been completely sidelined by his party, so i wonder how much longer he'll remain as the puppet leader

Dil - 23 Jun 2016 10:49 - 3271 of 12628

Betfair latest :

In 1.18
Out 6.2

cynic - 23 Jun 2016 11:09 - 3272 of 12628

just been to vote, and if this area is indicative, the t/o should be >70%

interestingly, one chap reckoned he'd registered on ;line, had confirmation of acceptance, but not showing on the electoral roll here ...... he wasn't happy
as he commented, i wonder how common that will be

MaxK - 23 Jun 2016 11:10 - 3273 of 12628

Depends on which way he wanted to vote.

VICTIM - 23 Jun 2016 11:18 - 3274 of 12628

Interesting bit after last nights Paxman farce , just seen this , Jeremy Paxman has withdraw an article criticising the EU from the next issue of the Radio Times under pressure from the BBC , so much for free speech eh BBC . 8th May .

ExecLine - 23 Jun 2016 11:43 - 3275 of 12628

Without a doubt, the Don't Knows are going to swing the vote.

But which way?

Whilst on here, if Remain does win, I would at least like to see a much more active input into Brussels management from the UK. At the moment, I do strongly get the impression it's Germany and France running things.
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