Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

Yes if we vote to ''remain'' then perhaps another EU member will have the courage and good sense to do what we have failed to do.
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George they will be stitched up similar to us no doubt , if the EU wanted in anyway to reform they would have now acted to snuff trouble out . I personally think they will bunker down and wait for it to pass over , then hit us with their tortuous tirade and one thing we can say is to people is , Well you voted for it .

If EU dırectıves get more than a bıt pernicious should UK stay ın. Then we may get a poll tax "Cant pay, wont pay" moment.

At long last team UK gets to have their say.
Ft poll of polls has Remain on 47% and Brexit 45%. Too close to call. but hoping for small win for the In vote.
All over in less than 24 hours either way

Good luck

currency markets look certain that "remain" will win .... eg - USD is now 1.4760 whereas it was below 1.42 just a few days ago

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Never give a sucker an even break

corbyn has been completely sidelined by his party, so i wonder how much longer he'll remain as the puppet leader

Betfair latest :

In 1.18
Out 6.2

just been to vote, and if this area is indicative, the t/o should be >70%

interestingly, one chap reckoned he'd registered on ;line, had confirmation of acceptance, but not showing on the electoral roll here ...... he wasn't happy
as he commented, i wonder how common that will be

Depends on which way he wanted to vote.

Interesting bit after last nights Paxman farce , just seen this , Jeremy Paxman has withdraw an article criticising the EU from the next issue of the Radio Times under pressure from the BBC , so much for free speech eh BBC . 8th May .

Without a doubt, the Don't Knows are going to swing the vote.

But which way?

Whilst on here, if Remain does win, I would at least like to see a much more active input into Brussels management from the UK. At the moment, I do strongly get the impression it's Germany and France running things.

Scrub France, it's direct from Berlin.

latest odds from betfair are
for Remain are 2/13, while Leave is 6/1

In the end our whole family voted OUT.

The best comment so far on the referendum is

"The referendum is worse than the General Election because if you are undecided you can't just vote Liberal".

Harry Connor (he's only 6 yrs old and he's a precocious little prick!) explains the EU Referendum. Anyhow, Grandma might like to watch it:

Part 1



Part 2

Hmmm? Is Harry related to Boris? This could be a possibility.

Hmmm? We'd better watch out for little Harry. He could easily 'blonde up' quite a fair bit in the next few years!

Yes the kids parents have done a good job at brainwashing, he won't
be very pleased later in his life if it turns out that the EU went belly up
or there was so much unemployment in the EU that immigration to the
UK escalated and his career opportunities were severely curtailed..

Here's the 'Adult' version:

Today, the UK electorate faces its biggest choice in more than a generation — whether to remain in the EU.

While the campaign to exit the bloc says a decision to remain would be the bigger risk, its opponents contend that breaking up with Brussels would be a leap in the dark.

Nevertheless, plans and promises about Brexit have already been made ahead of the UK’s June 23 referendum — and despite the unprecedented nature of such a move, much of what Brexit would involve can be predicted.

Here is a selection of Financial Times news and analysis of the steps after Brexit.

The promise: the UK would seek to leave the EU by 2019 and would be prepared to defy Brussels over immigration laws, according to a leading pro-Brexit minister.

The risk: George Osborne, the chancellor of the exchequer, has warned of a £30bn black hole in public finances if Britain should vote to leave on June 23.

The immediate aftermath: David Cameron would probably face the end of his career as prime minister as EU membership was put aside.

The politics: the political and constitutional questions caused by a vote to leave could open up a period of profound uncertainty for the UK and the EU.

The legal analysis: the referendum is advisory rather than mandatory; what happens next is a matter of politics, not law.

The mechanics: the UK would have two years to negotiate a deal after triggering the exit clause of the EU treaties; extending talks beyond that would require unanimity.

The economics: the professional consensus is clear - leaving the EU would hit growth. The size of that impact would depend on factors such as trade, productivity and foreign direct investment. But champions of Brexit argue that the economy would prosper outside the EU.

Immigration: the record influx of EU nationals has proved a powerful rallying call for the Leave campaign. Some three-quarters of EU citizens working in the UK would not meet current visa requirements for non-EU overseas workers if Britain left the bloc. But such restrictions are likely to apply to new entrants rather than to EU migrants already in the UK.

Trade options: leading Leave campaigners say they would not seek to join the EU’s single market — which requires free movement of labour. Instead they would seek a trade deal with the bloc. Treatment of the service sector, which accounts for 80 per cent of UK gross domestic product, would be a huge issue.

The European response: European leaders have stepped up secret discussions for an EU without Britain, drawing up a plan B focused on closer security and defence co-operation.