goldfinger
- 09 Jun 2005 12:25
Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).
Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.
cheers GF.
cynic
- 13 Nov 2013 09:14
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what a bitter and closed mind you have to be sure ...... do you also carry a bag of potatoes? .... i rather think you do
MaxK
- 13 Nov 2013 09:24
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Bag of spuds?
cynic
- 13 Nov 2013 09:32
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huge chips on his shoulder(s) :-)
MaxK
- 13 Nov 2013 09:37
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cynic
- 13 Nov 2013 09:41
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for all that, it seems to have worked, painful as it has been and may be for a while yet ..... despite the protestations of fred and a few others (like you?), the economy is picking up pretty fast and in its wake will come more employment (crap from fred and others ignored) which in due course becomes self-fulfilling ..... sunny and green-pastured (not green as in politics of jealousy) uplands can never be guaranteed as so many extraneous things can have a baleful effect
Fred1new
- 13 Nov 2013 10:02
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Cynic,
Wake up, you are still in dream land.
"uplands can never be guaranteed as so many extraneous things can have a baleful effect"
I see you express your doubts and getting ready for the u-turns and explanations of failed policies with mantras it wasn't my fault it was mummy's and daddy who let me down.
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But don't have a heart attack, or car crash over Xmas as they won't know which exit room to put you in, I suppose there is the always the morgue.
"Plan for two-tier A&E as part of radical shake-up"
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-24914385
When something is going wrong. it good to know that somebody will rush in and change it.
How many changes have there been so far due to Lansley and cronies?
Stan
- 13 Nov 2013 10:24
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"What a bitter and closed mind you have to be sure"... Not at all, But another nonsense response as usual, And mealy refers to himself.
"do you also carry a bag of potatoes?" ... What an Irrelevant wast of a sentence that is.
"I rather think you do"... Thinking? You?... When are you going to start then?
Haystack
- 13 Nov 2013 10:33
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13 November 2013 Last updated at 09:44
UK jobless total falls by 48,000 and rate drops to 7.6%
Breaking news
The number of unemployed people in the UK fell by 48,000 to 2.47 million between July and September, the Office for National Statistics has said.
The unemployment rate fell to 7.6%, the lowest rate in more than three years.
The Bank of England has said it will not consider raising interest rates from their record low of 0.5% until the unemployment rate falls below 7%.
The number of people claiming Jobseeker's Allowance fell by 41,700 to 1.31 million in October.
The number of people in work rose by 177,000, while the percentage of 16-to-64 year-olds in employment rose to 71.8%.
MaxK
- 13 Nov 2013 10:45
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So, 28.2% of 16-64 year olds are on the missing list.
What are they all doing?
MaxK
- 13 Nov 2013 11:16
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I suspect Call Me dave has given up on the prospects of getting re-elected, and is now in scorched earth mode.
Two-tier A&E as 100 units cut care
At least 100 A&E departments will offer reduced levels of service and patients will have to travel further for expert treatment under a shake-up of NHS casualty departments

Senior doctors say that the present A & E system is on the brink of collapse, adding that last winter many casualty units became like “warzones” as they struggled to cope with demand Photo: GETTY IMAGES
Laura Donnelly
By Laura Donnelly, Health Correspondent
9:57PM GMT 12 Nov 2013
At least 100 accident and emergency units will offer reduced levels of service and patients will have to travel further for expert treatment under the biggest shake-up of NHS casualty departments in 40 years.
A new two-tier system of A&E departments is the only way to keep a safe health service which is free at the point of use, officials claim.
Under the system up to 70 of England’s 170 casualty units will be designated as “major emergency centres” which treat the most serious conditions and injuries. The remainder will deal only with less serious injuries.
The plan will also attempt to ease the burden on A&E by keeping patients who do not need emergency treatment away from hospitals.
The reorganisation comes amid fears that this winter will put unprecedented strain on England’s A&E units.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/nhs/10445410/Two-tier-AandE-as-100-units-cut-care.html
goldfinger
- 13 Nov 2013 12:58
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Hays no mention in your post re- employment above of further falling in living standards!!!!!!!!!!!
goldfinger
- 13 Nov 2013 13:03
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steve hawkes@steve_hawkes2h
40% chance interest rates go up next year.. .. that's the sound of millions of mortgage holders getting v v nervous
Haystack
- 13 Nov 2013 13:20
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Maxi
So, 28.2% of 16-64 year olds are on the missing list.
That includes students at school and college, disabled, long term sick, people in institutions, prisoners and people under 64 who are retired.
Fred1new
- 13 Nov 2013 13:21
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For those who are a little bored and want to be bored more:
Bit long winded for Manuel, but has some interesting points
http://pro.moneyweek.com/myk-eob/LMYKP505/?h=true
It has video attachment somewhere!
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Interesting market reaction to latest "figures". No wonder Cameron has left the country.
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Have a listen to Esther McVey Conservative MP Minister of Employment of "You Work for Them" fame, trying to lift the spirits of the out of work youth.
It is good to be assured by her and she is a wonderful spokeswoman for the coalition.
Doubt, that a better representative could be found for coalition values.
Haystack
- 13 Nov 2013 13:21
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gf
Rates unlikely to rise next year and will be very small if it happens.
Haystack
- 13 Nov 2013 13:23
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gf
Like vibg standards were bound to fall as a result of the recession. It is a lagging indicator. An expanding economy comes first.
Fred1new
- 13 Nov 2013 13:36
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Before Hays and Manuel go off to the pub to celebrate:
We haven't got back to the end of the last government's levels after 3 years years of tory economics.
Inflation is round the corner and "industrial" investment is flat.
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Mind the market is always said to be right or was that left.
goldfinger
- 13 Nov 2013 13:38
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Hays my worry is that we are not isolated from the world economy and DEFLATION is the word on many economists lips in the US and here now.
I certainly wouldnt like to be a youngster with one of these new mortgage packages and interest rates rising.
goldfinger
- 13 Nov 2013 13:46
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Hays Hays Hays
WOW, just in, the gap is getting wider and wider.
TORY BOYS Id start worrying and getting ready to ditch fatty Dave.......just look at this.........
electionista@electionista1hour ago
UK - YouGov/Sun poll: CON 32%, LAB 42%, LDEM 8%, UKIP 10%
10 point lead.
Got to be this A@E 2 tier system.
What a bollox up.