cynic
- 20 Oct 2007 12:12
rather than pick out individual stocks to trade, it can often be worthwhile to trade the indices themselves, especially in times of high volatility.
for those so inclined, i attach below charts for FTSE and FTSE 250, though one might equally be tempted to trade Dow or S&P, which is significantly broader in its coverage, or even NASDAQ
for ease of reading, i have attached 1 year and 3 month charts in each instance
cynic
- 29 Nov 2007 09:40
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how red and how blue? ...... far too simplistic a statement
Stan
- 29 Nov 2007 10:00
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Simplicity can often be the best policy..but not always.
BigTed
- 29 Nov 2007 10:12
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in today's market, would rather buy when all doom and gloom then gamble on a fools rally (ie after 3/4 days of gains...) lets face it, the bad news from the states is far from over...
ptholden
- 29 Nov 2007 10:48
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Ted, you are totally right re bad news, problem is the yanks don't seem to be bothered by that rather salient fact, quite nuts!!
cynic
- 29 Nov 2007 10:53
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have decided that shorting the indices at current levels is too risky and shall stay neutral for the time being
Stan .... do not confuse simplicity with simplistic!
spitfire43
- 29 Nov 2007 10:55
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decided to sit on my hands today, no real direction on the ftse, would favour going short now. But too much of a gamble.
Stan
- 29 Nov 2007 10:57
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I was confusing nothing.
cynic
- 29 Nov 2007 11:44
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good for you! ....... anyway, i have concluded that shorting more SOLA is a much better and safer propostion for now .... see that thread
spitfire43
- 30 Nov 2007 11:13
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Here goes, gone long FTSE 6387.
Hopefully with Bernanke speach last night we are in for a bullish day.
We will see.
HARRYCAT
- 30 Nov 2007 11:17
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DOW futures currently +75, so the usual friday sell off looking unlikely, imo.
Quite a large number of companies go ex-divi next week, LSE, VED, ABF & TL. just to mention a few, so next week will see a few adjustments to the share prices.
spitfire43
- 30 Nov 2007 11:33
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As you say Friday sell off looking unlikely, but I have protected my position with a generous stop/loss. So hopefully in play for this afternoon.
spitfire43
- 30 Nov 2007 14:20
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Closed long position for a 40 point gain at 6427. Pleased with that.
I believe FTSE could go a little higher, but I will sit today out now, and look to Monday. Good luck to any traders out there today.
spitfire43
- 30 Nov 2007 14:29
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FTSE up 95 now to 6445, looking a little toppy to me with DOW futures only 138 up, but not brave enough to short today, the trend would be against me. And I dont want to give the profits today straight back.
HARRYCAT
- 30 Nov 2007 14:45
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Just as a matter of interest, spitfire (or anyone), what %age profit would you expect to make on an average week spreadbetting or CFDs? Don't reveal your stake.
I am just interested how much people make going long or short on stocks or indices, as I only trade stocks conventionally, but as things get more tricky then may have to look to other means.
Generally, over the last 3 years I make approx 25% p.a. on my equities, but is that realistic trading CFDs or spreadbetting?
spitfire43
- 30 Nov 2007 16:14
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I'm new to spread betting, I have been trading for only about 6 weeks on very small sums. small amount down but hopefully learning as I go along, and making less mistakes than at first. The biggest lesson I have leant is don't go against the trend, I tried to be to smart in first few trades and it didn't work.
Funny enough my return on equites would be about the same as yours, I still trade equities but have gone to a large cash position at moment.
Good luck if you decide to go down this route.
cynic
- 30 Nov 2007 17:21
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Harry ..... geared derivative trading is very scary and requires constant vigilance ..... all i will tell you is that my CFD trading in the current fiscal year is currently +24%, but only about 10 days ago, when the world caved in, it was down a similar amount
HARRYCAT
- 30 Nov 2007 17:36
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Thanks guys. So in a given year it should be possible to make 20-25% profit no matter which trading system you use. That's got to be better than +/- 6% gross at the building society & more interesting too.
cynic
- 30 Nov 2007 17:44
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as it is geared, the % gain or loss is significantly magnified .... with CFDs, and i think SBs are similar, the margin required is usually only 10% of the underlying stock .... thus, if you have 50k, you could theoretically buy 500k of stock
HARRYCAT
- 30 Nov 2007 17:48
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Of course, but you need to be ready for the dreaded margin call if things go badly wrong??? Don't worry, I will do plenty of research before committing & try the trial trading platform first.
Nice to see both the FTSE & the DOW finishing in the blue on a friday.
cynic
- 30 Nov 2007 17:54
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i am not convinced Dow will keep its head above water, but then i did not expect to see it +134 at opening either!