Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

I see fred has not said anything daft for a few hours. You never know perhaps he has gone off to vote. lol

St Trinian's?

Of course.

Fred probably had a bit of a fit in the polling station when he found he could not vote Labour.

If U.K. Votes for 'Brexit,' Will Other Countries Follow?

thanks for that .... a very good article, of which an important snippet ......

A result either way will have a significant impact on the U.K. and potentially Europe. A recent poll from YouGov showed that, out of seven countries polled, a majority in six of those felt that more countries would choose to leave the EU if a Brexit occurred ....... "whether the U.K. stays or leaves, I think that the main takeaway here is that the days of ever closer integration are basically over," Carsten Nickel, a political risk analyst at Teneo Intelligence

Hays,

Better than voting for the present neo-fascist or neo-cons masquerading as the tory party.

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FWIW I think many public Figures" - who have been postulating opinions as facts will be liable to much scrutiny. Those that have over-egged will be remembered and may fall from grace - whichever side wins . . . . . and the VOTE isn't necessarily the last Word - (( For example if GB "remains in" we may find that 1),The EU will not tolerate any previously "won" exceptions.... and-or 2),Other countries may leave the EU as a result of the massive "Stirring the stinking pot" ( My words!) - so, this might lead us to discover we are left having to prop-up the "disadvantaged countries" that the EU has/Will soon allow to join.)).

Certainly this is going to be entertaining - whichever way.

I have been saddened that the "Leave" campaign hasn't had a sensible leader - N.Farrge was pushed aside IMHO for "Political reasons" - perhaps others thought he was likely to upset the many immigrants, including many already in the House of Commons. Whilst Boris has experience, we have experience of him and I don't recall him being especially excited about the Prospects for GB-alone.
M.Gove has come from some obscurity to a huge asset - but amongst the Leavers I don't find anyone with forward vision . . . . but then it's rather too early perhaps . . . IMHO. We need someone that won't spend eye-watering amounts on vanity-projects like HS2 ( I saw in June 2016 - that Chiltern Railways offers London-Birmingham @ £6 single-fare . . . So, unless that's scheduled for Midnight-only; it looks like HS2 has a finance issue on its hands ).

If the Remain wins, they will have to hope that nothing bad befalls the EU for the Next Generation . . . let's face it that really is scary. I just cannot understand why D.Cameron promised a Ref..... ( to blunt the UKIP voters?) . . . and we've yet to unwind the fiasco of Tory Electoral Expenses - why wasn't that resolved prior to the Ref?
Haystack . . Thanks . . your considered Reply put flesh on the bones of what I wrote. For DC is was a massive underestimate - I suspect he expected the LiberalD MPs would be similar to the previous Election . . . it was surprising how the "School-Fees" scenario poisoned the LibD prospects . . . I thought they had behaved Honourably and really needed to demonstrate they had Ministerial potential . . . It tells me "NEVER" promise anything without a let-out option . . .

You have to realise that Farage is hated by Labour. He would have been a terrible leader for Leave as it would have alienated the Labour supporters that wanted to leave. I voted Leaved and as a Conservative I hate him as well. Cameron gave a referendum for many reasons. There had been a Eurosceptic part of the Conservative party for years. The referendum was a method of healing that sore. Cameron thought the same techniques that were used in the Scottish referendum could be used. Cameron didn't think he would get a clear majority and that the Labour vote would collapse so totally in Scotland. It was also a way to stop UKIP getting too strong by nullifying their call for a vote to leave.

Is there any indication of turnout yet?

There will be no exit polls. The turnout won't be able to be calculated until all polls have closed and the boxes have been sent to the counting centres. Then the totals per polling station will be added up at the centre and reported to the central control. When all the counting centres have reported they will have turnout. It could take quite a time.

Thanks.

But what I meant was there any indicators of raw numbers, not what they voted for.

ie, busy, brisk, slow, dead.

That is for the raw numbers. What they voted for will be maybe 2am onwards and a final result in the morning.

We've just voted, long queue's in each station so looks like highish turnout.
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How many times did you vote?

Cameron didn't believe that he'd get a majority when he said he'd hold
a referendum, and was expecting another coalition government, and in
the process saving his skin having to have one, but the final results put
the kibbosh on that plan, because he thought the Libdems would have the
referendum promise annulled if they wanted their support.

Camerons a snake oil salesman, always has been always will be, and it
shows your(Haystacks) judgement when he says he dosn't like Nigel Farage
when its Nigel Farage who tells it like it is...

Its a fact that that upsets some people..Those who lack any kind of judgement
in a persons character, as in their choice with sycophanting about cameron!!..

As to been hated by Labour(party), who's bothered about that?, but there
has been plenty of past Labour voters coming over to UKIP..

Fred it's not changed over the years it's still one man one vote which explains why you don't vote.
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Jeremy Corbyn is hated by just as many Labour voters as Farage imo.