Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Why didn't those Labour ministers under Blair and Brown like Jack Straw speake out about the problems of uncontrolled imigration , we all know now that Blair and certain people close to him kept it secret , but I bet Camball and Manelson knew.

http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&frm=1&source=web&cd=3&cad=rja&ved=0CD0QFjAC&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dailymail.co.uk%2Fdebate%2Farticle-2507533%2FImmigration-mistake-Come-Jack-Straw-RICHARD-LITTLEJOHN.html&ei=j1GHUov7GsGy7AbuhIGIDg&usg=AFQjCNEXvO9EVE-tdo-hjFkpOTwM-FziDg&bvm=bv.56643336,d.ZGU

A great artical By Richard Littlejohn

If only we could bring Blair and other's to court for their crime's aganist this country , its no more then treason.

Alders good point about imigration spouted by
labours A Johnson Hull MP.

Programme after Q Time.

He says we desperatlely needed them 2004

See repeat sat and sunday. Cant remember times.

Must agree though with U this tiny island needs less people.

You heard it first here!

Leaders who cheat the country to hang!

MPs. who dip their hands in the trough to hang!

MPs who ponce to the city to hang!

You heard it first here!

Leaders who cheat the country to hang!

MPs. who dip their hands in the trough to hang!

MPs who ponce to the city to hang!

fred - a day or two ago, you commented that doctors should work harder and lonfer etc etc

just for the record, my d-in-law is a gp
her working day starts at 08:00 and runs to 18:00 for surgery - typically 30 patients in that time ...... assuming all patients have turned up on time, she'll finish at about 19:00 having spent an hour catching upon phone calls, referrals and paperwork

doesn't work hard enough?????

Then perhaps your d-in-law should a closer look of how she is working, what she is accomplishing and whether her problem resolving methods are the best approach,

Also, as the government is constantly suggestion she may be able to increase her efficiency.

Also, check her auxiliary staff and whether that can be raised to reduce her "workload" even if that reduces her profit margins.

no fred, it just shows you're shooting from the hip and don't have the remotest grasp of the facts

so when you have done some homework and perhaps worked at the coalface you'll be able to make a sensible contribution instead of just talking total and utter balderdash

Cynic,

From close observation, and evaluation of practice, I guess I know more about medical general practice and hospital practice than you will ever know. That might even go for you d-in-law as well, but not having met her I would not be that sure.

clearly you do not though I know you spout away as if you know everything about everything including how to run the economy, the NHS and government in general

in fact, you're just a soapbox ranter who should just retire like the OAP you are and play dominoes in the pub with MrT

cynic - beats me why you even bother to converse with this moron! Obvious he stands in front of the mirror in his red jim jams every night chanting "Why Am I So Great, Oh Why Am I So Great" :O)

he isn't a moron - MrT perhaps carries that crown - but he is very tiresome at (most?) times ..... I respond to only a fraction of his nonsenses, but when it comes to attacking the efficiencies of GPs when I have a firsthand source to consult, he warrants a good kicking

Cynic,

I probably know a lot more about the NHS than will ever know, but with your rate of opinion formation and distribution, you would appear to be deluded into thinking yourself as the fount of all knowledge.

Pity you haven't notice that you are wearing wet trousers.

You appear as wet and disconnected as you mate Cameron poncing around the world trying to act like a second hand Blair. You three should get on well together.

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I suppose you could get a job as a "rent a mouth".


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Wales have just scored a push over try.

Somehow it reminds me of you.

go and throw your sulks elsewhere fred ..... you're no better than a charlatan when it comes to the medical profession

your political views are your own affair, only touching on my life in the vaguest of ways ...... as you won't vote, they really don't count for anything anyway let alone carry any weight

Ps.

My brother was a doctor, many of my in-laws were doctors and quite a lot of my friends were practicing doctors. (Hospital and General Practice.)

all in the past, as are you ..... i'm talking about TODAY's front line reporting from someone who actually operates there ...... you don't!

fred

I also have some knowledge by association regarding GPs and doctors in general. The experiences recounted to me match cynic's view pretty accurately.

I don't recognise your version of life as a doctor compared to what I am told by friends doing the job at the moment.

Stop digging, you are appearing more and more idiotic.

Or go to your leader, who has a u-turn up every sleeve for use after his ill-thought out pronouncements for advice of what to write next.

Mind, I can read you posting and your opinions with a sense of amusement.

But do make them shorter.

8-)

Hays,

You are probably believing the propaganda of some, as it is to your taste and suits the position you wish to hold.

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There are many well run and organised practices in primary and secondary health systems, but there is also a lot of part-timers who are being paid full-timers salaries.

There are a also a lot of inefficiencies in the health service, some of which suit some of the practitioners. Also, there is still an lot of professional protectionism practised within the health service. The latter is getting less, but it is still there.

Why does Fred waste his time on here with all his vast knowledge of running the country , why doesn't he ran for Parliament as an Independent.