Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/leaked-email-from-miliband-aide-describes-nightmare-of-working-with-ed-balls-on-economic-policy-8947768.html

Leaked email from Miliband aide describes 'nightmare' of working with Ed Balls on economic policy

It was an accident waiting to happen. A leaked email from one of Ed Miliband’s closest aides described as a “nightmare” the process of reaching agreement with the shadow Chancellor Ed Balls on the line to take on the economic recovery. It was mistakenly copied to a Conservative MP with the same name as Labour’s pollster, James Morris, and emerged in the Mail on Sunday.

To some Labour MPs, the only surprise was that the tensions between Mr Miliband and Mr Balls have not surfaced more often. They can be traced back to the Labour leadership election the two men contested in 2010. Mr Miliband argued that the market-based economic system put in place in the Thatcher era was broken. Mr Balls believed the answer was not to turn the system upside down, but a fiscal stimulus instead of Coalition cuts that went “too far, too fast”. Mr Miliband did not make Mr Balls his shadow Chancellor when he won the top job, only to change his mind three months later when his first choice, Alan Johnson, quit for personal reasons.

What followed was a marathon bout of arm-wrestling between the two Eds. In public, they insisted they had learned the lessons from their ringside seats at the bruising battles between Tony Blair and Gordon Brown. They both worked as aides to the former Chancellor before becoming MPs and ministers.

In private, Mr Balls argued that Labour should focus on his five-point plan to kickstart the economy, including a temporary cut in VAT. Mr Miliband saw that as backward-looking to 2010, insisting that Labour needed to look forward to 2015. It was a painful process, but the Labour leader gradually weaned his shadow Chancellor off his cherished plan. Their relationship improved when they reached a new settlement this summer. With economic growth set to return, Labour would switch the spotlight from the “failure” of George Osborne’s Plan A to the “cost of living crisis”.

Mr Balls, anxious to regain Labour’s economic credibility, insisted the party stick to the Coalition’s day-to-day spending total for the first year of the next parliament if it wins power in 2015. Mr Miliband, anxious to show how Labour would be different to the other parties, kept alive his plan to borrow more to outspend the Coalition on building projects such as housing.

Cyners......suit probably John Crowthers. Top quality the very best.

Was the textile centre of the World at one time.

The next con party leader.

He'll be well bald by the time he gets to No10...if ever.

i don't know sticky .... suit is being made by a "real" tailor in h'gate .... much amused that he was thrilled not to be making something in "downton tweed" for the shooting party :-)

Hmmmmm Cyners and Hays take a look at this. Makes a myth that were not tax friendly here in the UK...........

http://www.cityam.com/article/1384848416/uk-moves-ranking-competitive-tax-regimes

i can easily imagine that the figures and statistics can be shown to show whatever result was requested ..... for sure it's a damn sight more friendly than in france where there's all sorts of nasty things lurking, especially if you happen to own property there ..... australia is no utopia either, or so i believe

however, do you - or anyone else - want to run their lives primarily according to the most benevolent tax regime?
if you do, then go and live in UAE, but it certainly wouldn't be my choice

Clearly Cameron won't be leaving on a high.

Mind, some say, "old habits die hard"!

cynic

What would be your choice if you had to live outside the UK , am always interested to know people's views on this, lot's of things to consider, like family still living in uk , tax , health care , climate , local population and crime rate .

Alders Sweden or Denmark for me.

assuming i didn't find the tax and inheritance laws too onerous - or at least avoidable - my personal choice would be france as i have a passable knowledge of the language and they also know how to eat well ...... australia has its appeal despite the distance, though it is now 50 years since i was there

Monaco. No income tax, nice weather, great and easy to get to most of Europe.bSecond would be Cannes then the coast in Italy in the south.

The Algarve in Portugal for me - nice climate, nice people, lovely beaches, good golf courses, great fish restaurants, good wine - what's not to like !

gold & cynic

cynic , and you like cycling, but one of the drawbacks you overlooked , you might meet Fred over there, there you are having a nice cup of coffee and this little Welshman come's over and sits at your table ........................

goldie

What about the cold dark night's , and Sweden has its fair share of crime and imigration concerns., Its not cheap out there is it, house prices in the city's and food

Hay
Monaco only for the super rich

he'ld be recognisable by the red pennant flying from his caravan

french have some decent golf courses too

doodle

The Algarve in Portugal sounds nice