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THE TALK TO YOURSELF THREAD. (NOWT)     

goldfinger - 09 Jun 2005 12:25

Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

2517GEORGE - 20 Nov 2013 15:08 - 33034 of 81564

2.4% growth predicted for 2014, twice the rate of the Eurozone, ok predictions must be taken with a bucket of salt, but looking much better than the Eurozone.
2517

Fred1new - 20 Nov 2013 15:16 - 33035 of 81564

Hays,

What is the incidents of "suicide" amongst those who have had their allowances cut and frightened by the actions of this present misgovernment?

Are you proud of that?

How much has been "cash" or "tax" has this con party government given to the Hedge Funds, as bribes for future donations to the tory party?


What was the price of the swindling "sell off" to the city of Royal Mail?

Was that in response to promises?

The list is getting longer and longer and at the next election will be read out to the electorate.

Fred1new - 20 Nov 2013 15:22 - 33036 of 81564

Hays,

Bye the way are you signing up to be a boy soldier in defence of London?

2517GEORGE - 20 Nov 2013 15:25 - 33037 of 81564

Talking of dodgy dealings, Millipede and Ballsup under pressure to reveal the extent of their dealings with with ex Co-op boss Paul Flowers.
2517

goldfinger - 20 Nov 2013 15:35 - 33038 of 81564

Haystack - 20 Nov 2013 14:38 - 33035 of 33037

They are being tough on the assessments which is good. Mistakes are sorted out at the appeals stage.................................ends

WRONG totaly wrong.

ATOS do not make the final decision as to who pases and does not pass the assessment. They only make recommendations, usually the wrong ones.

Its the DSS DECISION MAKER employed as a civil servant who decides the assessment. He/She may throw out ATOS findings and say person is not fit to work ,and also is the person who refers to an appeal if the claimant asks for one.

So before the 47% won appeals you also have around another 38% of ATOS findings BINNED.

The whole new process is defunked and stinks and not only that costs the tax payer a fortune, it does not save on the previous scheme.

Of course they thought it would save money, but a lot of these so called skivers are indeed sick and disabled.

And it is true as Fred says their are over 450 suicide victims of this cruel policy the I D Smith regime have taken on.

People not strong enough or capable enough to look after themselves desperate at how this cruel government have treated them.

Too many people are looking at isolated cases in newspapers and their job is just that, to sell the newspaper.

Haystack - 20 Nov 2013 15:39 - 33039 of 81564

The alternative is that you make it too easy to get disability benefit and it is gicpven forever. Something had to be done about the abuses of the system. You obviously don,'t like the system and I do.

Fred1new - 20 Nov 2013 16:25 - 33040 of 81564

Hays,

It sometimes isn't the actions that a government imposes, but it is the manner and the pace of those changes.

It is self serving arrogant disregard by those "who have", against those who never have and will never have.

Not because they are lazy, or criminal, but often incapable to organise themselves appropriately.

Not swindling idle Bs who get away with the mistake of claiming £5000 for stabling
a nag in a barn.

Not like the abuse of promises for payments for advice to over-seas "business" connections.

And although it is good to see the deficit going own, what about the debt and what about the total GDP. This is the slowest economic recovery for over 50 years and the present group of tories are boasting

The employment figures appear fictitious when considering GDP.

The con party is being seen by the public as the party of smears and double standards.

And when it comes to sniffing illegal substances, I think some from the Bullingdon club appeared to have rotted or putrefied their grey cells.

Now that comes on to Ashcroft and his trying to distort the voting of the marginal seats.

The proposed Flowers inquiry fades into insignificance with Murdock creeping in through the back gate of Cameron’s lodgings and snuggling up with Andy and Rebecca, especially with the E-mail and phone hacking going on.

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This period of government appears to be surrounded by the "stench" of "lying and corruption".

Most of it will be attached to the Con Party.

The majority will be voters are attaching it to the old Etonians. Rightly or wrongly.

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DB,

Sorry, I had moved on leaving my fingers behind me, to do the wiping up.

I try to read my posts before postings, but sometimes it gets boring even to me.

8-)




doodlebug4 - 20 Nov 2013 16:52 - 33041 of 81564

Fred - please complete your post, or have you marmalised your overworked keyboard!! I was just beginning to enjoy that rant and it suddenly stopped.:-)

Haystack - 20 Nov 2013 16:59 - 33042 of 81564

Don't forget the corruption of the past government. It is more to do with who chooses to be MPs.

Stan - 20 Nov 2013 17:10 - 33043 of 81564

And H/S, who chooses who should stand to be an MP... The given Party of course.

cynic - 20 Nov 2013 17:16 - 33044 of 81564

fred - you spout a stream prejudiced rubbish and half-truths, manipulated to suit your warped little mind, not even from time to time, but virtually all the time ..... that is why i ignore almost all your posts

Stan - 20 Nov 2013 17:17 - 33045 of 81564

Alf - you talk such prejudiced rubbish, not even from time to time, but virtually all the time ..... that is why i ignore almost all your posts -):

cynic - 20 Nov 2013 17:21 - 33046 of 81564

no you don't stan ..... you read all of them, probably because they are succinct ...... needless to say, i don't consider myself unduly prejudiced at all, though i know you like to say that i am and "the soapbox king" may even think that i am

indeed, if you check, you'll find it is only rarely that i make any political comment, though perhaps you like to think that i do

Haystack - 20 Nov 2013 17:22 - 33047 of 81564

Stan, don't get me started on labour's selection process. It seems to be the most corrupt of all with Miliband too scared of the unions to confront the process.

cynic - 20 Nov 2013 17:25 - 33048 of 81564

hays - all parties have their selection procedure cliques, though i would agree that millipede looks clearly under the thumb of the Unite (patently under a very dodgy hierarchy) and probably the other heavy hitting unions

Stan - 20 Nov 2013 17:27 - 33049 of 81564

Haven't you heard H/S, the higher you go and the bigger the organisation the more corrupt it is sadly? I'm generalising of course.

Stan - 20 Nov 2013 17:32 - 33050 of 81564

A short history lesson for you "Con" artist supporters, before we had the Labour Party and Trade Unions we had total an absolute corruption by "your Con" Party and the Wigs. So stop trying to blame others for the example set by you lot thank you very much.

cynic - 20 Nov 2013 17:40 - 33051 of 81564

stan - why not revert to the barons and king john, or even simon de montfort or more recently henry viii? ..... shall we perhaps have three cheers for those on the pilgrimage of grace or the luddites? ..... don't be such a silly billy :-)

Stan - 20 Nov 2013 17:46 - 33052 of 81564

"stan - why not revert to the barons and king john, or even simon de montfort or more recently henry viii? ..... shall we perhaps have three cheers for those on the pilgrimage of grace or the luddites? ..... don't be such a silly billy :-)"

Be my guest, And thank you for agreeing with me.

Stan - 20 Nov 2013 17:46 - 33053 of 81564

Whoops! double posts blip alert.
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