goldfinger
- 09 Jun 2005 12:25
Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).
Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.
cheers GF.
Fred1new
- 20 Nov 2013 16:25
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Hays,
It sometimes isn't the actions that a government imposes, but it is the manner and the pace of those changes.
It is self serving arrogant disregard by those "who have", against those who never have and will never have.
Not because they are lazy, or criminal, but often incapable to organise themselves appropriately.
Not swindling idle Bs who get away with the mistake of claiming £5000 for stabling
a nag in a barn.
Not like the abuse of promises for payments for advice to over-seas "business" connections.
And although it is good to see the deficit going own, what about the debt and what about the total GDP. This is the slowest economic recovery for over 50 years and the present group of tories are boasting
The employment figures appear fictitious when considering GDP.
The con party is being seen by the public as the party of smears and double standards.
And when it comes to sniffing illegal substances, I think some from the Bullingdon club appeared to have rotted or putrefied their grey cells.
Now that comes on to Ashcroft and his trying to distort the voting of the marginal seats.
The proposed Flowers inquiry fades into insignificance with Murdock creeping in through the back gate of Cameron’s lodgings and snuggling up with Andy and Rebecca, especially with the E-mail and phone hacking going on.
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This period of government appears to be surrounded by the "stench" of "lying and corruption".
Most of it will be attached to the Con Party.
The majority will be voters are attaching it to the old Etonians. Rightly or wrongly.
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DB,
Sorry, I had moved on leaving my fingers behind me, to do the wiping up.
I try to read my posts before postings, but sometimes it gets boring even to me.
8-)
doodlebug4
- 20 Nov 2013 16:52
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Fred - please complete your post, or have you marmalised your overworked keyboard!! I was just beginning to enjoy that rant and it suddenly stopped.:-)
Haystack
- 20 Nov 2013 16:59
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Don't forget the corruption of the past government. It is more to do with who chooses to be MPs.
Stan
- 20 Nov 2013 17:10
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And H/S, who chooses who should stand to be an MP... The given Party of course.
cynic
- 20 Nov 2013 17:16
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fred - you spout a stream prejudiced rubbish and half-truths, manipulated to suit your warped little mind, not even from time to time, but virtually all the time ..... that is why i ignore almost all your posts
Stan
- 20 Nov 2013 17:17
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Alf - you talk such prejudiced rubbish, not even from time to time, but virtually all the time ..... that is why i ignore almost all your posts -):
cynic
- 20 Nov 2013 17:21
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no you don't stan ..... you read all of them, probably because they are succinct ...... needless to say, i don't consider myself unduly prejudiced at all, though i know you like to say that i am and "the soapbox king" may even think that i am
indeed, if you check, you'll find it is only rarely that i make any political comment, though perhaps you like to think that i do
Haystack
- 20 Nov 2013 17:22
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Stan, don't get me started on labour's selection process. It seems to be the most corrupt of all with Miliband too scared of the unions to confront the process.
cynic
- 20 Nov 2013 17:25
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hays - all parties have their selection procedure cliques, though i would agree that millipede looks clearly under the thumb of the Unite (patently under a very dodgy hierarchy) and probably the other heavy hitting unions
Stan
- 20 Nov 2013 17:27
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Haven't you heard H/S, the higher you go and the bigger the organisation the more corrupt it is sadly? I'm generalising of course.
Stan
- 20 Nov 2013 17:32
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A short history lesson for you "Con" artist supporters, before we had the Labour Party and Trade Unions we had total an absolute corruption by "your Con" Party and the Wigs. So stop trying to blame others for the example set by you lot thank you very much.
cynic
- 20 Nov 2013 17:40
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stan - why not revert to the barons and king john, or even simon de montfort or more recently henry viii? ..... shall we perhaps have three cheers for those on the pilgrimage of grace or the luddites? ..... don't be such a silly billy :-)
Stan
- 20 Nov 2013 17:46
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"stan - why not revert to the barons and king john, or even simon de montfort or more recently henry viii? ..... shall we perhaps have three cheers for those on the pilgrimage of grace or the luddites? ..... don't be such a silly billy :-)"
Be my guest, And thank you for agreeing with me.
Stan
- 20 Nov 2013 17:46
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Whoops! double posts blip alert.
cynic
- 20 Nov 2013 17:51
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stan - your grasp of history isn't too hot is it
Fred1new
- 20 Nov 2013 17:54
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Cynic,
I don't consider you that prejudiced and think anyone who forms that idea about you maybe misunderstanding you.
I would prefer to think of you as fixated in of your opinions and just a little deluded about you own value, and with your mind reading abilities seem to me to be developing mild paranoid features. I hope that doesn’t lead on to further development of self grandeur.
I hope that is brief enough for you!
Stan
- 20 Nov 2013 18:09
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Alf, my grasp of history is spot on thank you for asking, now how much work did you manage to do today? More then is your usual menial output I hope.
Fred1new
- 20 Nov 2013 18:09
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I think like the majority of the public are quiet happy for the labour party to be influenced by the "unions".
The unions gave birth to the Labour party out of necessity.
The influence and financial support should be open to public scrutiny.
What the tories are bleating about is that their membership is disintegrating, their financial backers are fleeing from a U-turn incompetent party and with the gradually weakening of the authority.
As far as the flowers fiasco I find it amusing to have a member of a Club who used "drugs and abused society" standing up and stating why wasn't there enquiries into Flowers behaviour.
Perhaps, there ought to be investigation into members of that club and whether they "hold" continues to have on membership of the cabinet.
Perhaps, an investigation into the Methodist Church would be instigated at the same time.
How much money has this government wasted of enquiries and what has been gained from them?
This stinks again of the abuse of power.
The police should investigate Flowers and his habits and actions. If there is criminality, prosecute him.
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MaxK
- 20 Nov 2013 18:17
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Haystack
- 20 Nov 2013 18:17
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Very much so. I have seen at first hand the very top of a number of organisations in the commercial world including ICI in the 80s and found the people involved straight as a die. It seems to be a few rogue people sullying the system. I suspect that some things in your list such as tax avoidance I would characterise as good business.