Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Haven't you heard H/S, the higher you go and the bigger the organisation the more corrupt it is sadly? I'm generalising of course.

A short history lesson for you "Con" artist supporters, before we had the Labour Party and Trade Unions we had total an absolute corruption by "your Con" Party and the Wigs. So stop trying to blame others for the example set by you lot thank you very much.

stan - why not revert to the barons and king john, or even simon de montfort or more recently henry viii? ..... shall we perhaps have three cheers for those on the pilgrimage of grace or the luddites? ..... don't be such a silly billy :-)

"stan - why not revert to the barons and king john, or even simon de montfort or more recently henry viii? ..... shall we perhaps have three cheers for those on the pilgrimage of grace or the luddites? ..... don't be such a silly billy :-)"

Be my guest, And thank you for agreeing with me.

Whoops! double posts blip alert.

stan - your grasp of history isn't too hot is it

Cynic,

I don't consider you that prejudiced and think anyone who forms that idea about you maybe misunderstanding you.

I would prefer to think of you as fixated in of your opinions and just a little deluded about you own value, and with your mind reading abilities seem to me to be developing mild paranoid features. I hope that doesn’t lead on to further development of self grandeur.

I hope that is brief enough for you!

Alf, my grasp of history is spot on thank you for asking, now how much work did you manage to do today? More then is your usual menial output I hope.

I think like the majority of the public are quiet happy for the labour party to be influenced by the "unions".

The unions gave birth to the Labour party out of necessity.

The influence and financial support should be open to public scrutiny.

What the tories are bleating about is that their membership is disintegrating, their financial backers are fleeing from a U-turn incompetent party and with the gradually weakening of the authority.

As far as the flowers fiasco I find it amusing to have a member of a Club who used "drugs and abused society" standing up and stating why wasn't there enquiries into Flowers behaviour.

Perhaps, there ought to be investigation into members of that club and whether they "hold" continues to have on membership of the cabinet.

Perhaps, an investigation into the Methodist Church would be instigated at the same time.

How much money has this government wasted of enquiries and what has been gained from them?

This stinks again of the abuse of power.

The police should investigate Flowers and his habits and actions. If there is criminality, prosecute him.
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Very much so. I have seen at first hand the very top of a number of organisations in the commercial world including ICI in the 80s and found the people involved straight as a die. It seems to be a few rogue people sullying the system. I suspect that some things in your list such as tax avoidance I would characterise as good business.

I think like the majority of the public are quiet happy for the labour party to be influenced by the "unions"

who told you that fred?
your mummy and daddy perhaps?

mind you, i guess a lot of those who do not support the labour party are also very glad that that party is clearly influenced by the unions, but of course not for the reason you would hope

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stan - another very useful day today, some biz conducted in the office and some on the golf course :-)

Manuel,

Remember your position.

My mother was a blue blooded tory. (May god have mercy on her soul.)

My father didn't discuss his vote but I would suspect Liberal, in modern day parlance a Social Democrat.

His views and mine probably concur on many things and valuations.

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But, one of the real influences that they had on me was to question my own stances and evaluate them and make my own choices, but to realise we all can have feet of clay.


I think that has been imparted to my own children, along with a tolerance of their own and the fallibilities of others.

Office biz? more like putting practice don't you mean, And as for Golf course biz? Oh how very "lower working class" of you -):

that's the prob with belonging to a club in the middle of a housing estate

Hays.

If you inflate yourself any more, you will be having conversations with God.

(God forbid.)

8-)

Sympathies then Alf, sympathies -):

Stan.

In Manuel's case, it was probably potty practice.

i take it you don't play with a little round, white ball and the plebs then stan

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fred - from a seemingly balanced family, i'm somewhat surprised and i suppose disappointed that they did not teach to take a more balanced view on life - and politics

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