Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Just out.

Hays hows your hang over?.

electionista ‏@electionista 11m
UK - YouGov/SundayTimes: CON 33%, LAB 40%, LDEM 9%, UKIP 11%

Its like Fred and I have said the public dont give a jot about this coop bloke and Fat Dave is wasting his time trying to pin it on labour.

What matters more than anything else in the next 6 months are Energy Bills and labour have the upper hand on this matter.

Call Me Dave is in election mode.

He knows he's buggered if we get a boatload of benifit seekers (which seems almost certain)

What else can he do? If he does nothing, he's finished!

thought i'ld try the internet mid-flight, but it's a bit slow, and I see this tread is a bit like corrie ...... lots of noise and words, but no forward action

Manuel,

I hope it is a one way ticket and you are emigrating!

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cynic
Where are you now? I hope it is somewhere nice and hot.

Do you mean Hell?

If so, that is not very nice of you, but on the other hand ??????

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/11/23/rupert-murdoch-wendi-deng-tony-blair_n_4330756.html

Michael Gove has hit out at Ed Miliband for his "coquettish reticence" in dealing with the scandals that have hit the Labour Party.

The Education Secretary suggested that it was hypocritical of the Labour Party not to expect to have to answer important questions about Paul Flowers, whilst launching personal attacks against David Cameron.

Gove insisted there was no Conservative plan to fight a "dirty campaign".

He said: "I absolutely think that we need to have lots of questions: that's why the Chancellor of the Exchequer took the advice of independent people to set up an inquiry, which will ask searching questions about what went on right up to the moment that we discovered everything we discovered about Paul Flowers.

"The difficulty, I think, that Labour has is they were the people responsible for appointing/allowing Paul Flowers to be appointed on their watch."

Mr Gove said that when it came to answering questions over the Unite union official at the centre of the Grangemouth oil refinery dispute and the Falkirk vote-rigging inquiry, Labour "tend to clam up".

He added: "One thing that I think is slightly sort of off is that Ed Miliband has been a great advocate of transparency, judge-led inquiries, all the rest of it, but whenever anyone asks questions about the Labour Party, then he has a sort of coquettish reticence."

Asked if he would give his word that there were no plans to run a "dirty campaign", Mr Gove replied: "Absolutely."

Citing Damian McBride, Gordon Brown's disgraced former spin doctor, he said that while there had been "some disagreeable aspects of politics" in the past, the Tories were intent on running a "clean" election battle. However, he said Labour also needed to play fairly.

He told the BBC's Andrew Marr Show: "I think Ed Miliband wants to fight a clean election campaign. I certainly do. I know that David Cameron does.

"I think that the election campaign should be conducted on the basis of policy versus policy. My worry is that actually, so far, quite a lot of the critique of the Government from Labour has been very personal."

Members of Government had been "attacked for their background not for their beliefs," he said. "I think that's wrong."

"We are pushing forward social mobility, that's what matters more, I think, than where a politician went to school."

"The difficulty, I think, that Labour has is they were the people responsible for appointing/allowing Paul Flowers to be appointed on their watch."


I suppose they could have shot him at the time. I question "appointing"

He has been in his post under the con party for close on 3 years and seeming was been pushed or encouraged to do more "stupidity" by Osborne,

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So much for openness.

Cameron didn't appear to some to give all the information to the Leveson enquiry to all his meetings and with the Murdoch clan.


As far as Cameron's attempt to smear Miliband, I suggest you look at a replay for PM questions and evaluate his body language and voice tones.

It was a prepared attempt to smear. It is the techniques preciously used by the tories and the tory press over numerous elections in attempts to denigrate the individual and distract attentions from their own failures of policies.

Theresa thought the con party was the Nasty Party, many think the present con party is becoming the Dirty Nasty Party.

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It seems a little like Manuel's more inept approach with many of his postings.


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The problem is not "Eton" or any other "school, university or background", but having a non representative clique, drawn from one background forming a governmental cabal, which is more interested in furtherance of themselves and ideology. rather than those they are supposed to represent.

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just checked in in Dubai ........ one of the very nice rooms overlooking the Gulf

shall just tootle down to the bar for a nice cold beer

What is the food like there?

Has Manuel got another job as a food taster?

Yippee.

jumeirah strip is preposterously expensive and the food is good but not in the same league as top London restaurants - but then they do have to bring everything in from far away ..... nevertheless, anyone who thinks they're in for a cheap holiday staying in Dubai (almost inevitably they'll stay on the "strip") will be swiftly disillusioned .... hence, many stoke up on breakfast (very good), miss lunch and then have (crap) table d'hote at their hotel

however, if you venture down to karama (little india) you can eat fantastically, always assuming you like indian food, and at a fraction of the price.

there's also some good and cheap local middle eastern places about opposite the gold souk on the other side of the creek

This isn't one your many (some say to many) laughingly described Business trips is it Alf?

I do like Arab food, except the brains/eyeballs stuff.

Hays,

Are you living in hope that they may transplant themselves to you.

That maybe lead to your improvement.

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Walk away from the UK and you walk away from the pound, Salmond warned

Alex Salmond has been warned that “if Scotland walks away from the United Kingdom, it walks away from the pound”, as the SNP’s currency plans dominate the build-up to Tuesday's publication of the independence white paper.



Alex Salmond has been warned that the UK Government is unlikely to support a sterling zone proposal Photo: PA







Auslan Cramb

By Auslan Cramb, Scottish Correspondent

5:44PM GMT 24 Nov 2013



Piling further pressure on the First Minister to produce a “Plan B”, Alistair Carmichael said a currency union would not work for a separate Scotland, and would not work for the rest of the UK.


The proposal also came under attack from a leading economist, and from figures inside the Yes Scotland camp, with one calling the sterling zone proposal “ridiculous”.


Mr Carmichael, the Scottish Secretary, said Mr Salmond had been warned repeatedly that the UK Government was unlikely to support the sterling zone proposal.


He was speaking after the Scottish Government announced that Scotland could become an independent country on March 24, 2016, in the event of Yes vote next year.


The date, which is included in the 670-page white paper, is the anniversary of both the Union of the Crowns in 1603, and of the signing of the Acts of Union in 1707





More: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/scotland/10471293/Walk-away-from-the-UK-and-you-walk-away-from-the-pound-Salmond-warned.html

Perhaps, they can use Bitcoins.

Taking Europe by storm 244 million views since Sept. As mad a song as this thread.

Ylvis - The Fox (What Does the Fox Say?)

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