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FTSE + FTSE 250 - consider trading (FTSE)     

cynic - 20 Oct 2007 12:12

rather than pick out individual stocks to trade, it can often be worthwhile to trade the indices themselves, especially in times of high volatility.

for those so inclined, i attach below charts for FTSE and FTSE 250, though one might equally be tempted to trade Dow or S&P, which is significantly broader in its coverage, or even NASDAQ

for ease of reading, i have attached 1 year and 3 month charts in each instance

HARRYCAT - 24 Oct 2008 14:06 - 3329 of 21973

I can't believe you haven't already traded a piece of that prediction, Cynic.
Indications have been down all morning.

maddoctor - 24 Oct 2008 14:08 - 3330 of 21973

do keep up , the futures have been suspended for hours!

dealerdear - 24 Oct 2008 14:11 - 3331 of 21973

we have restrictions in place today. futures limited to -5% which is why they haven't moved and the same at start of trade. If it happens, then there is a 2 min breathing space b4 trading begins again. If down 10% then another 2 mins and so on till a big fat Zero I suppose.

cynic - 24 Oct 2008 14:11 - 3332 of 21973

looking at IG CFDs which look possible to trade ..... currently showing -640 actually

harry ..... have got out of almost all ..... far far too scary for me

ptholden - 24 Oct 2008 14:14 - 3333 of 21973

Richard, US suspended until 2.30pm. IG are making their own opinion as to where the DJ will start trading.

ptholden - 24 Oct 2008 14:15 - 3334 of 21973

Could quite easily hit 7900 when trading commences.

required field - 24 Oct 2008 14:15 - 3335 of 21973

If this carries on....panicstricken sellers will drop the markets further....gloom and doom....may this end soon !.

cynic - 24 Oct 2008 14:16 - 3336 of 21973

yes, i know it's IGs "view" but presumably backed by biz too .... in fact now indicating/predicting -700 ...... if that is borne out, it is hard to believe that FTSE does not have a bundle more to lose

cynic - 24 Oct 2008 14:20 - 3337 of 21973

now -780 ...... IG are going to be either awfully right or awfully wrong, but i suspect the former will be closer

required field - 24 Oct 2008 14:21 - 3338 of 21973

Fortunes being made shorting and lost !.

cynic - 24 Oct 2008 14:37 - 3339 of 21973

glad i was just an interested observer!

dealerdear - 24 Oct 2008 14:59 - 3340 of 21973

US h'sing stats coming out at 3pm

cynic - 24 Oct 2008 15:05 - 3341 of 21973

place your bets now please ..... you know full well that whichever way you choose will be wrong!

cynic - 24 Oct 2008 15:05 - 3342 of 21973

and here's the answer ......

Existing home sales stronger than expected in September, up 5.5% to 5.18 million annual rate.

Falcothou - 24 Oct 2008 15:24 - 3343 of 21973

Gap close and down so far...

dealerdear - 24 Oct 2008 15:25 - 3344 of 21973

Used the slight recovery to get out of BG. for evens. US has a long way to go today and fully expect trading to be stopped at the 5% and maybe 10% or 20% before their day is out.

spitfire43 - 24 Oct 2008 19:33 - 3345 of 21973

I stopped day trading ftse early October(fortunately away for two weeks with no computer access), it was far to volatile for me anyway, like being at the races. But I will hopefully start again in November if calm returns.

I kept a paper record of my trading system for the rest of October, and the results were huge gains, but it could just have easily have been huge losses.

Happy to sit this one out for now.

cynic - 26 Oct 2008 14:50 - 3346 of 21973

surely another bleak week in prospect, though there may be a decent DCB in then offing ...... IEC and perhaps SHP could buck the trend, but am currently holding shorts in CSR and WPP and may well switch more of what is left of my mangled porfolio in that direction

Falcothou - 26 Oct 2008 21:25 - 3347 of 21973

Making money in the market is about predicting where the contagion is going to spread next. Banks are no longer the shorting targets it's countries that could implode e.g. Pakistan, eastern Europe, private equity/ insurers also looking vulnerable

jkd - 26 Oct 2008 22:20 - 3348 of 21973

cynic
do you mean managed? or do you say what you mean? or should it be mean what you say? sorry, these markets are enough to confuse just about everyone, myself included.i think you always do both,( not confuse) maybe i should have left that out? but i could be wrong. confused?
i've slept on it and have now decided to step back for a week or two or maybe just a little longer.i'm just going to run with my current open positions with protective stops and try very hard not to get drawn into taking any more positions.
famous last words. lol
as with all traders hats i reserve the right to change my mind of course. on a sixpence. and then back again.
seriously though, although that was, it depends on my total exposure which ultimately governs my pain threshold which is very low. i run quick. unless i'm in profit and then it is much higher.then i'm ok closing at progressive small profits or finally at no loss if i'm lucky should the market seriously turn on me.
i'm still a medium term bear but wary of a sharp rally given the volatilaty.
a question for all.
is it likely / probable that if/when the markets do rally then it is a given understanding that all stocks will do likewise?
do all holders just have to sit it out for the long term?
i have been fortunate over recent years. i havent had to sit through the ignomy of seeing a stock i held being relegated out of one of the indices.
might we start being asked such questions as 'the stockmarket is up or has now recovered but why isnt/ hasnt my share done the same'?.. or not?
any views on this anyone?.
good luck and best wishes to one and all
regards
jkd
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