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THE TALK TO YOURSELF THREAD. (NOWT)     

goldfinger - 09 Jun 2005 12:25

Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Haystack - 28 Nov 2013 14:56 - 33438 of 81564

I didn't deny the possibility of a housing bubble. Don't forget the help to buy is in place still. The BoE has only stopped the deal where especially cheap money was provided to lenders. That money is being switched to business lending.

One of the consequences to today's mortgages is that mortgage rates may rise and house prices should drop.

goldfinger - 28 Nov 2013 15:29 - 33439 of 81564

Rubbish, youve time and time again denied a bubble was building up.

Get your facts right hays.

Hays your a good lad really,we dont want you going the way of Camoron and lieing through your teeth.

Haystack - 28 Nov 2013 15:38 - 33440 of 81564

I don't,t think a bubble is actually building up yet. There are a few crazy people out there though. I was talking to an estate agent near me on Tuesday. There was a house for sale around here for close to £1m and an open day had to be arranged because 20 people wanted to view it. After the viewing they had 6 offers. Two people rang up and could not make the open day. They both offered to buy the house unseen.

MaxK - 28 Nov 2013 15:47 - 33441 of 81564


Clegg vs Boris: Of course we should discriminate by intelligence


By Martha Gill Politics Last updated: November 28th, 2013





Boris Johnson has made some comments about intelligence that got a lot of people riled this morning. He said:

Whatever you may think of the value of IQ tests, it is surely relevant to a conversation about equality that as many as 16 per cent of our species have an IQ below 85, while about 2 per cent have an IQ above 130. The harder you shake the pack, the easier it will be for some cornflakes to get to the top.


Clegg, firmly riled, (along with the Daily Mirror and large swathes of Twitter) told LBC:


I don’t agree with Boris Johnson on this and I have to say to you much as he is a funny and engaging guy, I have to say these comments reveal a fairly unpleasant, careless elitism that somehow suggests that we should give up on a whole swath of our fellow citizens.

I think the danger is if you start taking such a deterministic view of people and start saying they’ve got a number attached to them, in this case an IQ number, somehow they’re not really going to rise to the top of the cornflake packet, that is complete anathema to everything I’ve always stood for in politics, which is, yes of course, you shouldn’t aspire – and as an old-fashioned Liberal I don’t aspire to a perfectly homogenous society where everyone has the same kind of outcomes but you’ve got to try and do more to instill greater opportunity in society.



more huffin and puffin here:
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/marthagill/100248201/clegg-vs-boris-of-course-we-should-discriminate-by-intelligence/

Haystack - 28 Nov 2013 15:57 - 33442 of 81564

And Boris is right.

MaxK - 28 Nov 2013 16:00 - 33443 of 81564

Yes, but you are not supposed to say it.

Stan - 28 Nov 2013 16:00 - 33444 of 81564

Johnson is a typical Tory hey fellow well met oink.

Haystack - 28 Nov 2013 16:12 - 33445 of 81564

Boris is just saying that it is not realistic to make people equal. Some people are just stupid. You can give equal opportunity but that is about all you can do.

aldwickk - 28 Nov 2013 16:14 - 33446 of 81564

He's right but its not pc to say it , same with imigration you get accused of being a member of the BNP by Fred , still nobody takes any notice of him

goldfinger - 28 Nov 2013 16:22 - 33447 of 81564

I do.

Haystack - 28 Nov 2013 16:40 - 33448 of 81564

Yes, but you have been talking nonsense since 2005 on this thread.

Stan - 28 Nov 2013 16:45 - 33449 of 81564

Equal? No one is trying to make people equal as you well know H/S, another figment of your imagination.

cynic - 28 Nov 2013 16:47 - 33450 of 81564

sticky - I've obviously missed something, but what housing bubble and/or who has allegedly "proved" there is one?

btw, did you pick up on the fact that for the first time in yonks brickmakers will be working hard (flat out?) throughout the winter? ...... sure as hell those bricks won't just be for tate modern!

Chris Carson - 28 Nov 2013 16:47 - 33451 of 81564

That's ok gf we can still be friends :O)

doodlebug4 - 28 Nov 2013 16:49 - 33452 of 81564

There is a difference between intelligence and common sense. Some of the most intelligent people I know lack common sense. Charles Saatchi probably has a very high IQ, but he obviously has very little common sense - just one example.:-)

cynic - 28 Nov 2013 17:06 - 33453 of 81564

my s-in-law is another ....... shouldn't be allowed to x the road on her own!

Stan - 28 Nov 2013 17:15 - 33454 of 81564

You managed to get smuggled back yet Alf -):

Stan - 28 Nov 2013 17:18 - 33455 of 81564

Ashamed to say I live in the same country as low life like this at times http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-25139185

Fred1new - 28 Nov 2013 23:19 - 33456 of 81564

Cynic.

I hope you s-in-law's condition is contagious and that you are allowed to X the road.

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After thinking about the above remark you are lacking in both attributes denoted by DB.

Sorry, you seem to have had it.

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But, Jesus both you and Hays do write some rubbish.

cynic - 29 Nov 2013 05:00 - 33457 of 81564

no Stan, i'm here until next Thursday, back in uk v early Friday

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housing bubble
having now caught up a little, i see that carney did not say there was a bubble at all, but that he perceived that one might develop
he has therefore taken the prudent action of cutting back or removing the "easy/easier mortgage" stimulus to a more neutral position
hardly the same thing as some of you guys were putting about yesterday


as i was saying - from today's FT
BoE signals shift back to normality
Treasury and Bank of England believe problems with mortgage lending are mended, largely, and decide to concentrate bank subsidies on loans to companies


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eu freedom of movement
i was very surprised and interested that cameron's speech on restricting this received very prominent coverage in the local papers here

i won't bother, let alone allow myself to be drawn into the "soapbox ranting" brawl of which several (one in particular) of you muppets are so keen, not least because it would just provide unwarranted oxygen
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