Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

There is a difference between intelligence and common sense. Some of the most intelligent people I know lack common sense. Charles Saatchi probably has a very high IQ, but he obviously has very little common sense - just one example.:-)

my s-in-law is another ....... shouldn't be allowed to x the road on her own!

You managed to get smuggled back yet Alf -):

Ashamed to say I live in the same country as low life like this at times http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-25139185

Cynic.

I hope you s-in-law's condition is contagious and that you are allowed to X the road.

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After thinking about the above remark you are lacking in both attributes denoted by DB.

Sorry, you seem to have had it.

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But, Jesus both you and Hays do write some rubbish.

no Stan, i'm here until next Thursday, back in uk v early Friday

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housing bubble
having now caught up a little, i see that carney did not say there was a bubble at all, but that he perceived that one might develop
he has therefore taken the prudent action of cutting back or removing the "easy/easier mortgage" stimulus to a more neutral position
hardly the same thing as some of you guys were putting about yesterday


as i was saying - from today's FT
BoE signals shift back to normality
Treasury and Bank of England believe problems with mortgage lending are mended, largely, and decide to concentrate bank subsidies on loans to companies


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eu freedom of movement
i was very surprised and interested that cameron's speech on restricting this received very prominent coverage in the local papers here

i won't bother, let alone allow myself to be drawn into the "soapbox ranting" brawl of which several (one in particular) of you muppets are so keen, not least because it would just provide unwarranted oxygen

Dave Camoron ‏@EtonOldBoys 5m
Dont Panic, Dont Panic..... Labour are going to freeze energy prices Capt Camoron, OK men we will do the same, its our idea #votetory

bleat bleat bleat
good job you're not here or the halal butcher would have you :-)

Dave Camoron ‏@EtonOldBoys 34m
Tories seize the initiative and demand a price freeze from the Energy companies, now didn't Labour say this just 8 weeks ago oh De-Ja-Vue.................ends


yep but Dave you said and have said on numerous occasions labours freeze was just a gimmick!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

cynic

not least because it would just provide unwarranted oxygen

Thats what I have posted on here many times before

3rd time this week fat Dave as stolen labour policy.

First it was pay day loans, then cig packets and now energy.

What a weak PM he is.

Why do you call him fat Dave ? Don't recall you and Fred calling Gordon Brown fat Gordon , or Ed Ball's fat ball's.

PS , John Prescott another one

Because hes fat.

UK - YouGov poll - better off, or worse off out of #EU by issue:

http://mycharts1.webs.com/EU%20poll.JPG

The question was why don't you call the others fat ? they are much more fatter then he his , in fact he isn't really fat anyway , but don't let that get in the way of insulting someone.

NO why dont YOU call the others fat.!!!!!!!! your the one commenting on them.

Ive had no reason to comment on them anyway.

And by the way this PM insults 70% of the electorate by being in his position, so I have no qualms about calling him fat dave because thats the truth.
(did you see him on the beach in France this summer? I was looking for the spit)

The truth being something alien to him.

Who, outside gov funded jobs can afford this nonsense?




New mothers and fathers to get right to share 50 weeks of looking after baby

Fathers will be able to share up to 50 weeks of parental leave with their partners, under new family friendly laws being announced by Nick Clegg


Nick Clegg, the Deputy Prime Minister, confirmed that an initial plan to extend paid paternity leave has been shelved as 'unaffordable'



By Christopher Hope, Senior Political Correspondent

12:01AM GMT 29 Nov 2013

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/10482048/New-mothers-and-fathers-to-get-right-to-share-50-weeks-of-looking-after-baby.html



New parents will also be able to divide their time off into as many extended breaks as they want as long as their employers agree, after a Coalition tussle over the plans.


The reforms will also extend parents’ existing right to request flexible working to all employees in an attempt to reflect the increased role of grandparents and other carers in looking after their grandchildren.


Nick Clegg, the Deputy Prime Minister, said the changes would help to stop women feeling they have to choose between having a career or a baby.


The Government is publishing the final details of a significant shake-up which will cater for a growing desire by men to play a more hands-on role in a baby’s first year.


The traditional 52 weeks of maternity leave, other than the first fortnight for a new mother’s recovery, will be able to be shared between the parents from April 2015.


This means that a mother and father can decide between themselves when to take 37 weeks’ paid leave, and 13 weeks unpaid leave in the 50 weeks after a baby’s birth.

The changes had been delayed after Conservative ministers urged the LibDems to make them more business-friendly.

Employers will now have to agree any proposed pattern of time off and will retain the right to insist it be confined to a continuous block, with no more than two changes.

Mr Clegg confirmed that an initial plan to extend paid paternity leave has been shelved as “unaffordable”, though fathers will get the right to two days off, unpaid, to attend ante-natal appointments.

He said: “Women deserve the right to pursue their goals and not feel they have to choose between having a successful career or having a baby.

“They should be supported by their employers, rather than being made to feel less employable or under pressure to take unchallenging jobs. It is already illegal to sack a woman because she is pregnant, or on maternity leave, but we want to go further than that.

“We want to create a fairer society that gives parents the flexibility to choose how they share care for their child in the first year after birth. We need to challenge the old-fashioned assumption that women will always be the parent that stays at home. Many fathers want that option too.”

In other changes, the right to request flexible working patterns will be open to all employees who been for 26 weeks with a firm rather than being restricted to adults’ carers and parents of children under 17, or under 18 if their child is disabled.

It means grandparents could apply from April next year for flexible working to help look after grandchildren. Anyone taking total leave of six months or less over the period would be legally entitled to return to the same job.

Employers would be placed under a legal duty to consider requests in a "reasonable" manner.

Neil Carberry, CBI director of employment and skills, said: “We are pleased that the Government has listened to firms’ concerns about being able to plan effectively around parental leave.”

But the Institute of Directors said the changes were “a nightmare” which would heap more burdens on already-struggling firms.

Good point made here about the CONS energy policy...........

Peter Campbell ‏@Petercampbell1 8m
When we say 'holding energy prices until 2015', all we mean is not putting them up next winter. It's simply cancelling one hike.............................ends.

Yes of course they have already gone up this year and I think we are in for a rotten winter especially the more vunerable.

Goldfinger

Not a very convincing reply, don't bring your self down to Fred's level.