Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

i think saatchi is a very unpleasant piece of work

You have to take Novella's comments with a pinch of salt. They are both engaged on a war of words.

Before the May 2010 election, the Conservative Party made no promises when it came to tuition fee levels. Their manifesto talked about waiting for a review of higher education funding by Lord Browne, the former BP boss asked to look into this question by the Labour government (which also made sure Lord Browne would be reporting back after the election, neatly kicking the issue into touch).

The Conservatives accepted the Browne report and it was written into the coalition agreement before the start of the Coalition government.

Yep but the Liberals did. Remember the posters and banners. No tuition fees under our watch. Pity we cant get rid of them for good but theirs too many loyal constituencys historicaly.

Rather have the tories than that lot under Clegg.

Ive already sent Milli a letter saying no way to a coalition with those wet yes men.

Hays got the lap Top sorted memory connection. Showed the guy your post.

Many thanks.

The problem was that the Libs did not win an election. To operate as a coalition you have to compromise. The fees needed to rise and they did. Overall a good thing. For the best universities the fees need to rise again.

The fees problem is the result of the misguided policy of getting everyone to go to university to study pointless subjects.

Pointless subjects if employers dont want or recognise them agreed.

Same with 'O' levels or any qualification.

In fact these so called apprenticeships 6 weeks to do Customer Care, totaly useless.

oooooops duplicate.

It is worth remembering that Mandela was the head MK which was the terrorist wing of the ANC. He was involved in bombings in public places such as railway stations. At his trial he pleaded guilty to 156 acts of terrorism. He was part of the South African Communist Party. He has been transformed into a statesman. Certainly, his cause was just and the fight against apartheid was needed.

Almost without exception, the leaders of Israel were originally terrorists killing British soldiers in Palestine.

The same is now true of Palestinian 'terrorists' who are fighting against Israeli apartheid in the West Bank and who seek the return of their country. They are fighting a system just as bad as existed in South Africa.

today's terrorist is tomorrow's freedom fighter etc etc

Cameron is still a Hypocrite to come out and say what he has done today and especially last night. Lies through is teeth that man.

Hays.......

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sticky - which of the whole crew currently in parliament would you say tells the whole and unequivocal truth? ...... a rhetorical question, for indeed there are none, prevarication and dissimulation being the stock in trade of all politicians

I would be very worried about a politician that always spoke the truth. I would certainly not vote to them as they would be unsuited to the job.

So you start from the position that you like politicians blowing smoke up your ass?

I certainly expect it. Do you know any politicians who you trust to tell the truth? If so, who are they?

Boris Johnson speak's his mind , that's why he his so popular even with working class Labour voters in London.

I said, Nelson Mandela passes away.

Nelson Mandela, wasn't he locked away for 3 decades as he was regarded as a terrorist?

Unfortunately no Haystack, I don't know any.

Perhaps this is the reason people are voting less and less?