bosley
- 20 Feb 2004 09:34
Chiva20
- 24 Apr 2005 21:33
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Agreed Sharesure I think smallcap shares give a very shortsighted opinion on SEO, in their own words I think they're 'getting a bit wobbly' as they did before Christmas on their stake. Every indication points to significant upside, the Walmart deal is almost a foregone conclusion and it will only be a matter of time before other supermarkets etc. step in. And this is all before considering the potential of the rest of SEO's portfolio, frogpack etc. Barring utter disaster, the only obstacle preventing a progressive climb in the following months would be short bursts of profit taking and jitters in the overall economic climate, each of which will pass and pave the way for new SEO fan club membership. I don't even think EK would have a stab after his last pitiful effort, and if he does, bring it on! Opportunity to top up for the umpteenth time
Erics prophecy of an average of 4 points a month sounds about accurate for me, I can happily live with that.
Chiva
EWRobson
- 24 Apr 2005 21:33
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pension
Interesting post. I tend to get suspicious when only a selective part of a story is published: you can see the journalists trying to find some sells to notionally take profits and not doing their homework properly. I have been complainign recently about such action with sells recommended, or implied, fro YOO, ASC and SEO. So what justifies the cuurent price and, indeed, provides a strong basis for short-term growth?
(1) The Evolution forecast of 3.3p per share in 2007 based on a cumulative delivery of 2600 units. This is, in fact, a very small share of the potential market, perhaps some 5%. The forecast was made prior to the annouincements of the liaisons with Premier and Advanced as foirerunners of an attack on the US market, with Walmart obviously a prime target.
(2) The key factor which is easily missed is the royalty aspect of the payment structure so that the revenue and profits rise exponentially once the volume builds up.
(3) The pay-off to the users are dramatic in terms of reduced costs and other benefits, of which increased shelf life is particularly dramatic. Thus, it reasonably appears inevitable that Tesco and the rest will follow so that ASDAs advantage is restricted to the one year benefit. With Walmart, the product is timed brilliantly with a movement to out-sourcing products in palce of in-store butcheries.
smallcapshares appear to have made the same mistake as Simon Cawkwell, making a judgement on a quick appraisal of one aspect of the finances - perhaps noggidynog (alias II) works for them!
Eric
jimmy b
- 24 Apr 2005 22:00
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Agree with your posts chaps,, and we don't talk about that insider guy , any way he's on holiday ,,lets hope its raining and he's got Turkey tummy..JB..
pension271
- 24 Apr 2005 22:04
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I agree with you all - and am staying put - and if at all drops for ANY reason will add in future. p/271
Eric -who is this -noggidynog (alias II) ?
andysmith
- 24 Apr 2005 22:32
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Good post Pension271 and the right kind of "negative post". Not necessarily your own thoughts but an opposite opinion to ours to make us look over our reasoning again. Take Eric's Evolution forecast figure of EPS 3.3p, PEx10 = 33p at least. My earlier maths re-quoted, 10% hit on worldwide meat-pack market could generate 10p EPS, x PE10 = 100p. Doesn't take much to see the potential.
Add to that Frogpack, Biodegradable, water soluble and Ingel.
Yes >20p is a long way from 5.5p on Jan 3rd but there should still be a long way to go. There will be dips along the way and clever traders could buy and sell into profit or larger holdings. I will hold and buy on dips. I believe the magazine that you have quoted is very short-sighted, people pay silly money for exploration companies and bio-chems which are totally speculative. Whilst SEO is classed as a small share now, this magazine won't be able to offer advice in 2-3years time, SEO will be too big when this all comes to fruition. Just my opinion but see no reason to change that right now. Tony Ruane of ASDA remains confident and see's other opportunities for RF within the packaging of its products and I have to agree with him.
EWRobson
- 24 Apr 2005 22:41
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andysmith: agree 100% (as I usually do!)
pension: noggidynog is sd's name for the chap mentioned by jimmy b who we don't mention! When is a penny share no longer a penny share. Shares ran an article on penny shares including HCEG which had billions of the blessed things. Then thay do a 1 for 50 consolidation (I think) and they are no longer a penny share! lol! I suspect that advising on penny shares means that you don't need to do your homework so thoroughly as buyers have their tongues lolling out, like stockdog when he is thirsty or left in a car that is too hot!
Eric
andysmith
- 24 Apr 2005 22:44
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Eric, I personally don't mind these people under-estimating SEO, keeps it low enough for a while until I have more dosh hopefully in mid-June!!
Quite happy with 20-25p until then.
stockdog
- 25 Apr 2005 07:11
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Pension271 - thanks for the post and the ensuing response it engendered. Just to complete the story eric started. Nogginsider the Nog (to give him his full name) is married to Queen Shortharda and they both tend to lose their shirts when shorting in a new stockmarket gambit known now as "shirting". There pet German dachsdragon Daxula is forced to avert his eyes at this unedifying sight. It's all Oliver Postgate thing.
Welcome to the wacky world of Stan THE Company, known by his Mexican friends as Stanelco. You can tell when he's been your way, because you will find a large S carved by an RF beam on the all the tray lids in your freezer!
:)
SD
pension271
- 25 Apr 2005 07:57
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Andysmith - your post 3376 -"I personally don't mind these people under-estimating SEO" > i hope you are not implying that i am trying to do so. In fact if you notice my end comment on my post you will see:
"I have been in and out of this share for a long time now and still hold a substantial figure - about 14% of my total outlay in shares."
I posted the article as it appeared in the mag - just for us all SEO supporting family - i would like to think that i am part of this family as i passionately believe in the company.
A long time ago i was involved in packaging and know the implication of what SEO has.
Best wishes
p/271
andysmith
- 25 Apr 2005 08:11
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Pension271, No definitely not, I am referring to the magazine article which no doubt those who don't research themselves and take the advice will also under-estimate the potential of SEO but its up to them.
jimmy b
- 25 Apr 2005 09:45
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Would of been cheaper to get a taxi !plus you shouln'nt take that Ferrari out in the rain driver..JB..
bosley
- 25 Apr 2005 09:52
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morning all. here we go again, back on the roller coaster!!!
driver, you should charge interest as well. it will be a good life lesson for the boy!!
bhunt1910
- 25 Apr 2005 10:30
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Morning Driver - I had a similar problem with management - had to go and have breakfast with my Wife - when I got back the price had gone back up. I guess you win some - and you lose some.
Baza
jimmy b
- 25 Apr 2005 10:36
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Yes driver i have one ready its SEO 100P..JB..
bhunt1910
- 25 Apr 2005 11:12
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I am pretty well fully invested - but wanted to do another CFD at 21 - in which I still have some gains from previous CFD's on SEO
Baza