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Fundy -Out of interest how long ago was Howell at 290 please? I should plan ahead more obviously.

(1) Roger Federer (Swi) v Paul-Henri Mathieu (Fra)
Ivo Minar (Cze) v Michal Tabara (Cze)
Joshua Goodall (GB) v Alessio Di Mauro (Ita)
Julien Benneteau (Fra) v (25) Nicolas Kiefer (Ger)
(23) Juan Carlos Ferrero (Spa) v Qualifier
Thomas Enqvist (Swe) v Hyung-taik Lee (Kor)
Florian Mayer (Ger) v Santiago Ventura (Spa)
Fernando Verdasco (Spa) v (13) Tommy Robredo (Spa)
(11) Joachim Johansson (Swe) v Albert Montanes (Spa)
Alberto Martin (Spa) v Greg Rusedski (GB)
Jose Acasuso (Arg) v Tomas Zib (Cze)
Alan Mackin (GB) v (21) Fernando Gonzalez (Chi)
(31) Mikhail Youzhny (Rus) v Marcos Baghdatis (Cyp)
Oscar Hernandez (Spa) v Jean-Rene Lisnard (Fra)
Jonas Bjorkman (Swe) v Qualifier
Scott Draper (Aus) v (8) Nikolay Davydenko (Rus)


(3) Lleyton Hewitt (Aus) v Christophe Rochus (Bel)
Jan Hernych (Cze) v James Blake (USA)
Qualifier v Qualifier
Sargis Sargsian (Arm) v (29) Nicolas Massu (Chi)
(24) Taylor Dent (USA) v Qualifier
Kevin Kim (USA) v Alex Bogdanovic (GB)
Qualifier v Tomas Berdych (Cze)
Lars Burgsmuller (Ger) v (16) Mariano Puerta (Arg)
(10) Mario Ancic (Cro) v Qualifier
Qualifier v Stefan Koubek (Aut)
Gael Monfils (Fra) v Olivier Rochus (Bel)
Cyril Saulnier (Fra) v (22) Dominik Hrbaty (Svk)
(26) Feliciano Lopez (Spa) v Bjorn Phau (Ger)
David Sherwood (GB) v Ricardo Mello (Bra)
Karol Beck (Svk) v Mark Philippoussis (Aus)
Paradorn Srichaphan (Tha) v (5) Marat Safin (Rus)


(7) Guillermo Canas (Arg) v Qualifier
Max Mirnyi (Bel) v Rainer Schuettler (Ger)
Stanislas Wawrinka (Swi) v Fabrice Santoro (Fra)
Peter Wessels (Ned) v (28) Jiri Novak (Cze)
(19) Tommy Haas (Ger) v Janko Tipsarevic
Qualifier v Qualifier
Andrei Pavel (Rom) v Qualifier
Bohdan Ulihrach (Cze) v (12) Thomas Johansson (Swe)
(14) Radek Stepanek (Cze) v Robby Ginepri (USA)
Andrew Murray (GB) v Qualifier
Karol Kucera (Svk) v Luis Horna (Per)
Raemon Sluiter (Ned) v (18) David Nalbandian (Arg)
(27) Richard Gasquet (Fra) v Philipp Kohlschreiber (Ger)
Sjeng Schalken (Ned) v Potito Starace (Ita)
Felix Mantilla (Spa) v Gilles Muller (Lux)
Vincent Spadea (USA) v (4) Rafael Nadal (Spa)


(6) Tim Henman (GB) v Jarkko Nieminen (Fin)
Nicolas Almagro (Spa) v Dmitry Tursunov (Rus)
Alexander Popp (Ger) v Jerome Haehnel (Fra)
Wayne Arthurs (Aus) v (32) Filippo Volandri (Ita)
(17) David Ferrer (Spa) v Guillermo Garcia-Lopez (Spa)
Juan Monaco (Arg) v Qualifier
Victor Hanescu (Rom) v Kenneth Carlsen (Den)
Michael Llodra (FRa) v (9) Sebastien Grosjean (Fra)
(15) Guillermo Coria (Arg) v Tomas Behrend (Ger)
Jonathan Marray (GB) v Xavier Malisse (Bel)
Alex Calatrava (Spa) v Qualifier
Jurgen Melzer (Aut) v (20) Ivan Ljubicic (Cro)
(30) Robin Soderling (Swe) v Igor Andreev (Rus)
Davide Sanguinetti (Ita) v Qualifier
Qualifier v Ivo Karlovic (Cro)
Jiri Vanek (Cze) v (2) Andy Roddick (USA)

(1) Lindsay Davenport (US) v Alina Jidkova (Rus)
Marta Marrero (Spa) v Qualifier
Barbora Strycova (Cze) v Lilia Osterloh (US)
Sanda Mamic (Cro) v (30) Dinara Safina (Rus)
(23) Ai Sugiyama (Jpn) v Roberta Vinci (Ita)
Abigail Spears (US) v Anne Kremer (Lux)
Marissa Irvin (US) v Qualifier
Katie O'Brien (GB) v (15) Kim Clijsters (Bel)
(10) Patty Schnyder (Swi) v Antonella Serra Zanetti (Ita)
Tatiana Perebiynis (Ukr) v Qualifier
Maria Kirilenko (Rus) v Qualifier
Magdalena Maleeva (Bul) v (24) Shinobu Asagoe (Jpn)
(27) Nicole Vaidisova (Cze) v Jelena Kostanic (Cro)
Samantha Stosur (Aus) v Michaela Pastikova (Cze)
Akiko Morigami (Jpn) v Sania Mirza (Ind)
Rebecca Llewellyn (GB) v (5) Svetlana Kuznetsova (Rus)

(3) Amelie Mauresmo (Fra) v Paola Suarez (Arg)
Maria Sanchez Lorenzo (Spa) v Marta Domachowska (Pol)
Sarah Borwell (GB) v Shenay Perry (US)
Tamarine Tanasugarn (Tha) v (25) Karolina Sprem (Cro)
(22) Silvia Farina Elia (Ita) v Martina Sucha (Svk)
Maria Vento-Kabchi (Ven) v Milagros Sequera (Ven)
Meghann Shaughnessy (US) v Julia Schruff (Ger)
Anna Smashnova (Isr) v (13) Elena Likhovtseva (Rus)
(9) Anastasia Myskina (Rus) v Qualifier
Evie Dominikovic (Aus) v Aiko Nakamura (Jpn)
Mariana Diaz-Oliva (Arg) v Anne Keothavong (GB)
Anna Chakvetadze (Rus) v (17) Jelena Jankovic (SeM)
(28) Amy Frazier (US) v Mashona Washington (US)
Selima Sfar (Tun) v Emilie Loit (Fra)
Elena Baltacha (GB) v Qualifier
Iveta Benesova (Cze) v (6) Elena Dementieva (Rus)

(7) Justine Henin-Hardenne (Bel) v Eleni Daniilidou (Gre)
Klara Koukalova (Cze) v Laura Granville (US)
Gisela Dulko (Arg) v Yuliana Fedak (Ukr)
Emmanuelle Gagliardi (Swi) v (26) Flavia Pennetta (Ita)
(19) Ana Ivanovic (SeM) v Vera Douchevina (Rus)
Denisa Chladkova (Cze) v Stephanie Foretz (Fra)
Qualifier v Tathiana Garbin (Ita)
Lucie Safarova (Cze) v (12) Mary Pierce (Fra)
(14) Venus Williams (US) v Qualifier
Nicole Pratt (Aus) v Ludmila Cervanova (Svk)
Qualifier v Shahar Peer (Isr)
Evgenia Linetskaya (Rus) v (20) Daniela Hantuchova (Svk)
(29) Marion Bartoli (Fra) v Rika Fujiwara (Jpn)
Qualifier v Jill Craybas (US)
Qualifier v Qualifier
Angela Haynes (US) v (4) Serena Williams (US)

(8) Nadia Petrova (Rus) v Virginia Ruano Pascual (Spa)
Claudine Schaul (Lux) v Michaela Krajicek (Ned)
Zuzana Ondraskova (Cze) v Cara Black (Zim)
Catalina Castano (Col) v (32) Virginie Razzano (Fra)
(21) Francesca Schiavone (Ita) v Kristina Brandi (PuR)
Conchita Martinez (Spa) v Qualifier
Kveta Peschke (Cze) v Dally Randriantefy (Mad)
Marlene Weingartner (Ger) v (11) Vera Zvonareva (Rus)
(16) Nathalie Dechy (Fra) v Maria Elena Camerin (Ita)
Jane O'Donoghue (GB) v Anna-Lena Groenefeld (Ger)
Tatiana Panova (Rus) v Lisa Raymond (US)
Alyona Bondarenko (Ukr) v (18) Tatiana Golovin (Fra)
(31) A Medina Garrigues (Spa) v Katarina Srebotnik (Slo)
Yoon Jeong-cho (Kor) v Arantxa Parra Santonja (Spa)
Amanda Janes (GB) v Sesil Karatancheva (Bul)
Nuria Llagostera Vives (Spa) v (2) Maria Sharapova (Rus)

I guess I should know this. If I back a horse running today and it is declared a non runner later today, will I get my money back.

Jeff

yes

Kernow

i think it was at the weekend but not sure

Jeff, It's called a rule four. On Betfair you will see the reduction factors in each market. No worries.

Fundy, did the odds change much on the Tennis after the draw? I am in panic mode doing some recording for a company at the moment and can't get access to Betfair for today.

Thanks Steve for posting up the full Wimbledon draw.

Will check it out and will post up thoughts later.

I see that Grosjean and Antic odds have shortened whilst Karlovic who'll likely to play Roddick in the 2nd round drifting

Scrip, I've saved odds pre and post draw and will post up later

I meant to record it but have been dumped on today so I am pretty much out of the loop today. Would be really interested in seeing the pre and post draw figures.

doppel

Scrip

have to admit to being lazy and forgot to dump the pre draw prices (knowing that Bak had) - doesnt appear to be many large changes

Initial thoughts on the mens draw:

First quarter
Dominated by federer, the rest of the quarter looks very weak to me - who hell play in the quarters is up for grabs

Second Quarter
A much tougher quarter with the top half looking like Hewitt vs Dent in the fourth round. the bottom half has provided Safin with a tough draw including Scrichapan in he first round, Phillipoussis in the second round and then Ancic in the fourth round

Third quarter
Looks the weakest quarter to me (good news for young Andrew Murray) and contains a lot of clay court players. likely 4th round matches will be nalbandian vs nadal and canas vs johanson though anything could happen in this quarter

Fourth quarter
Roddick got the draw no one wanted having to face Karlovic in the second round. The winner of that should progress to the quarters where the opponent could well be the winner of a fourth round match between Henman and Grosjean (Roddick vs Grosjean it is then!)


To me the best value to be had maybe in trying to find who will emerge out of the third quarter as the route to the semis in this quarter is by far the easiest - finding who it will be is a bit harder

All these calculations when we know the best bet is to Lay Henman.

Scrip

ill let him win his first couple of matches and let the hype get going before i ratchet up the lay on Henman.

To win wimbledon he will have to win 7 matches, the last 4 likely to Grosjean/Roddick/3rd qtr winner/Federer - cant see him winning the first of them so will be laying after round 3!!!

Thanks again Steve for your analysis. Saves me doing it.

Apologies for being thick but how do I get images onto this post. I've saved betfair screens of pre and post draw odds and would like to post these up. I have paint shop pro but not used it before. Do I need other image manipulating software?

Bak

havent got a clue im afraid - tried to do it myself a while back and failed

scrip ????

Bakko,

I think you need to host then on a web space first. If you send them to me via internal mail I can get them posted this afternoon.

Bakko, as cunningham says, you need to put them on a website first.

You can get your own free site here: http://uk.geocities.yahoo.com/

I use mine just to park images etc and then direct other people to them. I've never bothered to create a home page, but that doesn't matter.

Cunningham and Piptrader

Thanks for your help. I'll have a go tonight. I'll need to learn how to do it anyhow but if I make a pig's ear of it then I'll send them over to you Cunningham.