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- 27 Oct 2004 23:40

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Fundamentalist
- 16 Jun 2005 13:38
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(1) Lindsay Davenport (US) v Alina Jidkova (Rus)
Marta Marrero (Spa) v Qualifier
Barbora Strycova (Cze) v Lilia Osterloh (US)
Sanda Mamic (Cro) v (30) Dinara Safina (Rus)
(23) Ai Sugiyama (Jpn) v Roberta Vinci (Ita)
Abigail Spears (US) v Anne Kremer (Lux)
Marissa Irvin (US) v Qualifier
Katie O'Brien (GB) v (15) Kim Clijsters (Bel)
(10) Patty Schnyder (Swi) v Antonella Serra Zanetti (Ita)
Tatiana Perebiynis (Ukr) v Qualifier
Maria Kirilenko (Rus) v Qualifier
Magdalena Maleeva (Bul) v (24) Shinobu Asagoe (Jpn)
(27) Nicole Vaidisova (Cze) v Jelena Kostanic (Cro)
Samantha Stosur (Aus) v Michaela Pastikova (Cze)
Akiko Morigami (Jpn) v Sania Mirza (Ind)
Rebecca Llewellyn (GB) v (5) Svetlana Kuznetsova (Rus)
(3) Amelie Mauresmo (Fra) v Paola Suarez (Arg)
Maria Sanchez Lorenzo (Spa) v Marta Domachowska (Pol)
Sarah Borwell (GB) v Shenay Perry (US)
Tamarine Tanasugarn (Tha) v (25) Karolina Sprem (Cro)
(22) Silvia Farina Elia (Ita) v Martina Sucha (Svk)
Maria Vento-Kabchi (Ven) v Milagros Sequera (Ven)
Meghann Shaughnessy (US) v Julia Schruff (Ger)
Anna Smashnova (Isr) v (13) Elena Likhovtseva (Rus)
(9) Anastasia Myskina (Rus) v Qualifier
Evie Dominikovic (Aus) v Aiko Nakamura (Jpn)
Mariana Diaz-Oliva (Arg) v Anne Keothavong (GB)
Anna Chakvetadze (Rus) v (17) Jelena Jankovic (SeM)
(28) Amy Frazier (US) v Mashona Washington (US)
Selima Sfar (Tun) v Emilie Loit (Fra)
Elena Baltacha (GB) v Qualifier
Iveta Benesova (Cze) v (6) Elena Dementieva (Rus)
(7) Justine Henin-Hardenne (Bel) v Eleni Daniilidou (Gre)
Klara Koukalova (Cze) v Laura Granville (US)
Gisela Dulko (Arg) v Yuliana Fedak (Ukr)
Emmanuelle Gagliardi (Swi) v (26) Flavia Pennetta (Ita)
(19) Ana Ivanovic (SeM) v Vera Douchevina (Rus)
Denisa Chladkova (Cze) v Stephanie Foretz (Fra)
Qualifier v Tathiana Garbin (Ita)
Lucie Safarova (Cze) v (12) Mary Pierce (Fra)
(14) Venus Williams (US) v Qualifier
Nicole Pratt (Aus) v Ludmila Cervanova (Svk)
Qualifier v Shahar Peer (Isr)
Evgenia Linetskaya (Rus) v (20) Daniela Hantuchova (Svk)
(29) Marion Bartoli (Fra) v Rika Fujiwara (Jpn)
Qualifier v Jill Craybas (US)
Qualifier v Qualifier
Angela Haynes (US) v (4) Serena Williams (US)
(8) Nadia Petrova (Rus) v Virginia Ruano Pascual (Spa)
Claudine Schaul (Lux) v Michaela Krajicek (Ned)
Zuzana Ondraskova (Cze) v Cara Black (Zim)
Catalina Castano (Col) v (32) Virginie Razzano (Fra)
(21) Francesca Schiavone (Ita) v Kristina Brandi (PuR)
Conchita Martinez (Spa) v Qualifier
Kveta Peschke (Cze) v Dally Randriantefy (Mad)
Marlene Weingartner (Ger) v (11) Vera Zvonareva (Rus)
(16) Nathalie Dechy (Fra) v Maria Elena Camerin (Ita)
Jane O'Donoghue (GB) v Anna-Lena Groenefeld (Ger)
Tatiana Panova (Rus) v Lisa Raymond (US)
Alyona Bondarenko (Ukr) v (18) Tatiana Golovin (Fra)
(31) A Medina Garrigues (Spa) v Katarina Srebotnik (Slo)
Yoon Jeong-cho (Kor) v Arantxa Parra Santonja (Spa)
Amanda Janes (GB) v Sesil Karatancheva (Bul)
Nuria Llagostera Vives (Spa) v (2) Maria Sharapova (Rus)
jeffmack
- 16 Jun 2005 13:39
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I guess I should know this. If I back a horse running today and it is declared a non runner later today, will I get my money back.
Fundamentalist
- 16 Jun 2005 13:41
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Jeff
yes
Kernow
i think it was at the weekend but not sure
Scripophilist
- 16 Jun 2005 13:42
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Jeff, It's called a rule four. On Betfair you will see the reduction factors in each market. No worries.
Scripophilist
- 16 Jun 2005 13:44
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Fundy, did the odds change much on the Tennis after the draw? I am in panic mode doing some recording for a company at the moment and can't get access to Betfair for today.
bakko
- 16 Jun 2005 13:45
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Thanks Steve for posting up the full Wimbledon draw.
Will check it out and will post up thoughts later.
I see that Grosjean and Antic odds have shortened whilst Karlovic who'll likely to play Roddick in the 2nd round drifting
bakko
- 16 Jun 2005 13:47
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Scrip, I've saved odds pre and post draw and will post up later
Scripophilist
- 16 Jun 2005 13:53
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I meant to record it but have been dumped on today so I am pretty much out of the loop today. Would be really interested in seeing the pre and post draw figures.
Scripophilist
- 16 Jun 2005 13:53
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doppel
Fundamentalist
- 16 Jun 2005 13:57
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Scrip
have to admit to being lazy and forgot to dump the pre draw prices (knowing that Bak had) - doesnt appear to be many large changes
Fundamentalist
- 16 Jun 2005 14:14
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Initial thoughts on the mens draw:
First quarter
Dominated by federer, the rest of the quarter looks very weak to me - who hell play in the quarters is up for grabs
Second Quarter
A much tougher quarter with the top half looking like Hewitt vs Dent in the fourth round. the bottom half has provided Safin with a tough draw including Scrichapan in he first round, Phillipoussis in the second round and then Ancic in the fourth round
Third quarter
Looks the weakest quarter to me (good news for young Andrew Murray) and contains a lot of clay court players. likely 4th round matches will be nalbandian vs nadal and canas vs johanson though anything could happen in this quarter
Fourth quarter
Roddick got the draw no one wanted having to face Karlovic in the second round. The winner of that should progress to the quarters where the opponent could well be the winner of a fourth round match between Henman and Grosjean (Roddick vs Grosjean it is then!)
To me the best value to be had maybe in trying to find who will emerge out of the third quarter as the route to the semis in this quarter is by far the easiest - finding who it will be is a bit harder
Scripophilist
- 16 Jun 2005 14:20
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All these calculations when we know the best bet is to Lay Henman.
Fundamentalist
- 16 Jun 2005 14:22
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Scrip
ill let him win his first couple of matches and let the hype get going before i ratchet up the lay on Henman.
To win wimbledon he will have to win 7 matches, the last 4 likely to Grosjean/Roddick/3rd qtr winner/Federer - cant see him winning the first of them so will be laying after round 3!!!
bakko
- 16 Jun 2005 14:35
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Thanks again Steve for your analysis. Saves me doing it.
Apologies for being thick but how do I get images onto this post. I've saved betfair screens of pre and post draw odds and would like to post these up. I have paint shop pro but not used it before. Do I need other image manipulating software?
Fundamentalist
- 16 Jun 2005 14:36
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Bak
havent got a clue im afraid - tried to do it myself a while back and failed
scrip ????
cunningham
- 16 Jun 2005 14:42
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Bakko,
I think you need to host then on a web space first. If you send them to me via internal mail I can get them posted this afternoon.
Piptrader
- 16 Jun 2005 14:54
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Bakko, as cunningham says, you need to put them on a website first.
You can get your own free site here:
http://uk.geocities.yahoo.com/
I use mine just to park images etc and then direct other people to them. I've never bothered to create a home page, but that doesn't matter.
bakko
- 16 Jun 2005 15:02
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Cunningham and Piptrader
Thanks for your help. I'll have a go tonight. I'll need to learn how to do it anyhow but if I make a pig's ear of it then I'll send them over to you Cunningham.
cunningham
- 16 Jun 2005 15:21
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Piptrader
- 16 Jun 2005 15:46
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bakko, have sent you my tel no through AM mail - happy to talk you through it if necessary.