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I guess I should know this. If I back a horse running today and it is declared a non runner later today, will I get my money back.

Jeff

yes

Kernow

i think it was at the weekend but not sure

Jeff, It's called a rule four. On Betfair you will see the reduction factors in each market. No worries.

Fundy, did the odds change much on the Tennis after the draw? I am in panic mode doing some recording for a company at the moment and can't get access to Betfair for today.

Thanks Steve for posting up the full Wimbledon draw.

Will check it out and will post up thoughts later.

I see that Grosjean and Antic odds have shortened whilst Karlovic who'll likely to play Roddick in the 2nd round drifting

Scrip, I've saved odds pre and post draw and will post up later

I meant to record it but have been dumped on today so I am pretty much out of the loop today. Would be really interested in seeing the pre and post draw figures.

doppel

Scrip

have to admit to being lazy and forgot to dump the pre draw prices (knowing that Bak had) - doesnt appear to be many large changes

Initial thoughts on the mens draw:

First quarter
Dominated by federer, the rest of the quarter looks very weak to me - who hell play in the quarters is up for grabs

Second Quarter
A much tougher quarter with the top half looking like Hewitt vs Dent in the fourth round. the bottom half has provided Safin with a tough draw including Scrichapan in he first round, Phillipoussis in the second round and then Ancic in the fourth round

Third quarter
Looks the weakest quarter to me (good news for young Andrew Murray) and contains a lot of clay court players. likely 4th round matches will be nalbandian vs nadal and canas vs johanson though anything could happen in this quarter

Fourth quarter
Roddick got the draw no one wanted having to face Karlovic in the second round. The winner of that should progress to the quarters where the opponent could well be the winner of a fourth round match between Henman and Grosjean (Roddick vs Grosjean it is then!)


To me the best value to be had maybe in trying to find who will emerge out of the third quarter as the route to the semis in this quarter is by far the easiest - finding who it will be is a bit harder

All these calculations when we know the best bet is to Lay Henman.

Scrip

ill let him win his first couple of matches and let the hype get going before i ratchet up the lay on Henman.

To win wimbledon he will have to win 7 matches, the last 4 likely to Grosjean/Roddick/3rd qtr winner/Federer - cant see him winning the first of them so will be laying after round 3!!!

Thanks again Steve for your analysis. Saves me doing it.

Apologies for being thick but how do I get images onto this post. I've saved betfair screens of pre and post draw odds and would like to post these up. I have paint shop pro but not used it before. Do I need other image manipulating software?

Bak

havent got a clue im afraid - tried to do it myself a while back and failed

scrip ????

Bakko,

I think you need to host then on a web space first. If you send them to me via internal mail I can get them posted this afternoon.

Bakko, as cunningham says, you need to put them on a website first.

You can get your own free site here: http://uk.geocities.yahoo.com/

I use mine just to park images etc and then direct other people to them. I've never bothered to create a home page, but that doesn't matter.

Cunningham and Piptrader

Thanks for your help. I'll have a go tonight. I'll need to learn how to do it anyhow but if I make a pig's ear of it then I'll send them over to you Cunningham.

Bakko,

This link is useful to test on.

http://www.moneyam.com/TradersRoom/ShowPostList?fID=1&tID=1955

bakko, have sent you my tel no through AM mail - happy to talk you through it if necessary.

Thanks Pip, Will give it a go but will call if I get stuck.