Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Same should have happened with Cameron the hypocrit.

GOBSMACKED.... just look at this.............

Working People Claiming Housing Benefit Soars By 104%
BY STEVEN PREECE · 10 DECEMBER, 2013

http://welfarenewsservice.com/working-people-claiming-housing-benefit-soars-104/

It's to early for the "feel good effect" lead in yet as the election is 2015 apparently, unless they don't fancy trying to win as they think they will have little chance... Bit soon for that though.

hardly an unbiased report was it! ...... lots of conclusions drawn which cannot actually be supported by fact

it may also be relevant to know the rules surrounding housing benefit - e.g. in awarding benefit, are the salaries/incomes of all residents consolidated?
perhaps they; perhaps they're not; it's a straight question
if they are not, then they damn well should be and the rules changed accordingly

with regard to the level of rents, it is of course a simple matter of supply and demand - as with houses themselves

Stan, I think itl all go down to those live election televised broadcasts. Remember last time Clegg was PM for 2 weeks LOL.

Itl be between milly and Camoron, and I reckon milly as his beating on a 1 to 1 especially if he gets camoron worked up.

Cyners Yes i think they are all consolidated. You mean a seperate income figure for man and wife or partner??. then a grand total.

GF,

Working People Claiming Housing Benefit Soars By 104%
BY STEVEN PREECE · 10 DECEMBER, 2013


If the above is correct it shows the stupidity of much of the economic policies of this coalition.

Sheer stupidity to have people being paid to be unemployed when the could be subsidised and doing something useful in society and improving the general economy.

Stupid to be paying tax payers money into the hands of the private landlords, when with adequate "social housing" the equity of it would belong to the state and the state drawing and "income" from many of the tenants.

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Taxation of the poor used to increase the wealth of the more affluent in a society.

Hi fred,

the problem in a way and I dont like going back retro is that of all the council houses maggie T sold, 66% are now in the hands of private landlords.

Private lanlords like myself and cynic are not regultated as tightly as we should really be.

Having said that I bet cyners like me is a good private landlord but their is a lot in fact a majority who are not and spoil it for the good ones.

It can be really difficult to make a profit on a private tennancy a lot harder than people think.

fawlty - you writing even more drivel than usual, hard as that may be to believe

Cyners i got done for an absolute midgin on my Income tax/ property tax this time. Robbing bs. People think it s derd cheap to let property it isnt.

Just think i have 4 large hotel type blocks (syndicate of 7 sharing) 485 rooms, and 12 houses mine.... i rent out.

its bloody hard work , very hard work.

sticky - there's an awful lot of lousy tenants too! .....

if the rental is at the lower end at say £700-1000 pm, your deposit is only £1000-1500 and it certainly doesn't take much for that to be more than gobbled up even with decent tenants

actually, your last comment says it all even if it rather contradicts what went before ..... it certainly highlights that fawlty doesn't have much clue as to reality in the letting market

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ps fawlty is fred!

I wonder who is footing the bill for all these British extras at Mandela's memorial service? Cameron, Clegg, Milliband - ok, but Blair, Brown, Major? I hope the latter three paid their own way.

GF.

I had no problem with the sale of "council houses" to the occupants and many were delighted to do so. Good for them.

But the money from the sales should have gone into replacement of housing stock.

Again, not against private landlords (I am one myself, due to inheritance "complications"), but the argument of supply and demand and high rental returns is in my mind a "fraudulent" argument association, when the rent is subsidised out of "general taxation" and going to the lucky few.

(It occurs, but the profit should be reduced by increased construction to reduce the unit price.)

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Fair point fred.

That article about housing benefit for working people is such a load of nonsense.

hey dont forget though Fred a lot around here , well in the town bought their council house and as soon as the time limit was up flogged them on the open market....and they spruced them up to make a killer profit.

Now their were time limits if i remember rightly, before you could buy. those that lived for years in the house no problem, them who were thier very much shorter ....well.

The current government policy regarding the right to buy is that there must be a new property built for each one sold.

The real slump in housebuilding came under the last government.

Hays LOL LOL LOl LOL LO LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL.

hays do you wear a mask??.

and what do you consider a high rental return?
and what about when the property is earning nothing?
and what about the shortfall when dilaps are greater than the deposit?

and now where do you intend to build your houses?
and do you want to gobble up yet more greenbelt?
and do you want to sell off school playing fields to create more building land?
and do you want to requisition allotments for building land?


and so on and so on .... for goodness sake, do try to get real for once in your life

Cyners whom are you posting to?, make sure u put the name in.