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Initial thoughts on the mens draw:

First quarter
Dominated by federer, the rest of the quarter looks very weak to me - who hell play in the quarters is up for grabs

Second Quarter
A much tougher quarter with the top half looking like Hewitt vs Dent in the fourth round. the bottom half has provided Safin with a tough draw including Scrichapan in he first round, Phillipoussis in the second round and then Ancic in the fourth round

Third quarter
Looks the weakest quarter to me (good news for young Andrew Murray) and contains a lot of clay court players. likely 4th round matches will be nalbandian vs nadal and canas vs johanson though anything could happen in this quarter

Fourth quarter
Roddick got the draw no one wanted having to face Karlovic in the second round. The winner of that should progress to the quarters where the opponent could well be the winner of a fourth round match between Henman and Grosjean (Roddick vs Grosjean it is then!)


To me the best value to be had maybe in trying to find who will emerge out of the third quarter as the route to the semis in this quarter is by far the easiest - finding who it will be is a bit harder

All these calculations when we know the best bet is to Lay Henman.

Scrip

ill let him win his first couple of matches and let the hype get going before i ratchet up the lay on Henman.

To win wimbledon he will have to win 7 matches, the last 4 likely to Grosjean/Roddick/3rd qtr winner/Federer - cant see him winning the first of them so will be laying after round 3!!!

Thanks again Steve for your analysis. Saves me doing it.

Apologies for being thick but how do I get images onto this post. I've saved betfair screens of pre and post draw odds and would like to post these up. I have paint shop pro but not used it before. Do I need other image manipulating software?

Bak

havent got a clue im afraid - tried to do it myself a while back and failed

scrip ????

Bakko,

I think you need to host then on a web space first. If you send them to me via internal mail I can get them posted this afternoon.

Bakko, as cunningham says, you need to put them on a website first.

You can get your own free site here: http://uk.geocities.yahoo.com/

I use mine just to park images etc and then direct other people to them. I've never bothered to create a home page, but that doesn't matter.

Cunningham and Piptrader

Thanks for your help. I'll have a go tonight. I'll need to learn how to do it anyhow but if I make a pig's ear of it then I'll send them over to you Cunningham.

Bakko,

This link is useful to test on.

http://www.moneyam.com/TradersRoom/ShowPostList?fID=1&tID=1955

bakko, have sent you my tel no through AM mail - happy to talk you through it if necessary.

Thanks Pip, Will give it a go but will call if I get stuck.

Morning All,

I never managed to sort out the posting of images but will nail it one day. Thanks to piptrader - enjoyed chatting with you last night. I sent you an email with the Wimbledon odds as an attachment - at least I can do that!

If anybody else wants a copy just send me an email address through the internal email system and I'll fire off a copy to you.

bakko - thanks, got it, and have put the images on my site, so you can quote that if you wish. Details emailed to you last night.

If you don't have access to your email at work, I'll send details to you now through internal mail.

Pip

can you post it up here for us ?

Certainly, if bakko gives me the ok (they are his images!)

Pip, No problems at this end. You have my full permission to post here.

It has my bets on it proving that I put my money where my mouth was. Of course, I'll be greening up as the tournament progresses. It looks like my best chances are with Grosjean, Antic and Johannson as their odds have come in following the draw.

Here are bakko's images:

http://uk.geocities.com/nufinal/prewimdraw1.JPG
http://uk.geocities.com/nufinal/prewimdraw2.JPG
http://uk.geocities.com/nufinal/prewimdraw3.JPG
http://uk.geocities.com/nufinal/prewimdraw4.JPG

http://uk.geocities.com/nufinal/postwimdraw1.JPG
http://uk.geocities.com/nufinal/postwimdraw2.JPG
http://uk.geocities.com/nufinal/postwimdraw3.JPG


and here they are all on one page:

http://uk.geocities.com/nufinal/bakko.htm

Bak

thanks for the images


Pip

thanks for hosting and posting

Steve,

Are you trading the races at the moment?

No

had a couple of bets but not trading