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THE TALK TO YOURSELF THREAD. (NOWT)     

goldfinger - 09 Jun 2005 12:25

Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

goldfinger - 12 Dec 2013 11:29 - 33966 of 81564

he he ha ha LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL Hays again

"They have only transferred a few people onto universal credit as a pilot",,,,ends

It was meant to be hundreds of thousands and now 3 years behind target date.

I think it will be scraped anyway.

goldfinger - 12 Dec 2013 11:32 - 33967 of 81564

electionista ‏@electionista
UK - YouGov/Sun poll: CON 33%, LAB 39%, LDEM 9%, UKIP 13%

Labour majority of 70 plus.

Haystack - 12 Dec 2013 11:37 - 33968 of 81564

It seems to pretty much on target. It will be a better system as well.

goldfinger - 12 Dec 2013 11:48 - 33969 of 81564

Theirs always one comedian in the room.

goldfinger - 12 Dec 2013 11:49 - 33970 of 81564

Former soldier suffering from post-traumatic stress disorder tells of humiliating Atos medical assessment

http://www.camdennewjournal.com/news/2013/dec/former-soldier-suffering-post-traumatic-stress-disorder-tells-humiliating-atos-medical#.UqmhEiVF_zE.twitter

Haystack - 12 Dec 2013 11:53 - 33971 of 81564

More nonsense. You expect some claims to be refused and then overturned on appeal. The alternative is giving disability benefit to anyone who asks.

goldfinger - 12 Dec 2013 11:58 - 33972 of 81564

LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL

MaxK - 12 Dec 2013 11:58 - 33973 of 81564

I know someone who went through the atos thingy.

He filled in the forms truthfully, then sat back and waited to be rejected, but a decision came back a few weeks later saying no action.

Mind, he is genuinely disabled.


Lots of lead swingers on the disability wagon.

goldfinger - 12 Dec 2013 12:01 - 33974 of 81564

hays just admit you dont have a clue how the system works.

Its the Decision Maker at the DSS who makes the decision on wether a claim is successfull or not.

Haystack - 12 Dec 2013 12:55 - 33975 of 81564

It is quite clear that there needs to be a tougher line taken on all sorts of benefits. The history of disability benefits is that a helpful doctor would say that you needed the benefit and then you would get it forever. It is time to be more realistic. Like it or not, the new policy is popular withe public.

goldfinger - 12 Dec 2013 13:12 - 33976 of 81564

Nothing could be furher from the truth now. Your local GPs diagnosis is not enough these days. In fact its often just put to one side and not bothered with.

Claimants have to get at least 2 supportive letters/diagnosis and its the one from a specialist that is the one that counts. Its the one the decision maker will accept or reject and then the case would go to an appeal if rejected.

goldfinger - 12 Dec 2013 13:16 - 33977 of 81564

The claimant can then get further evidence from an idependant medical source and send it to the DSS where another Decision Maker (not the first one) will review the case and either award benefit ot still allow it to go to an appeal.

Haystack - 12 Dec 2013 13:22 - 33978 of 81564

A much better system.

goldfinger - 12 Dec 2013 13:40 - 33979 of 81564

Well it certainly would be if I d Smith hadnt had a hand in informing ATOS certain targets had to be met each week by every individual working for them, which has directly led to thousands of claimants being assessed wrongly and ultmately going on for 500 suicides now.

Fred1new - 12 Dec 2013 14:34 - 33980 of 81564


Interesting comparisons for the prejudiced eyes.


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The increase is an embarrassing setback for David Cameron, who has repeatedly said he would crack down on benefit fraud.

• 'There is no debacle on Universal Credit': Iain Duncan Smith defends delays to flagship £2.4billion welfare overhaul

In opposition, his Conservative party attacked Labour for presiding over an ‘astounding’ £80 per second of fraud and error.

Benefit fraud rose by £100million to £1.2billion last year compared with 2011/12.

Overpayments due to errors by claimants and officials went up £200million to £2.3billion.

Matthew Sinclair, of the TaxPayers’ Alliance, said: ‘Shocking increases in fraud and error cannot be swept under the carpet and ignored.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2521452/110-second-lost-benefit-fraudsters-despite-Camerons-pledge-crack-people-cheat-system.html#ixzz2nGqzJFWg
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However!!!!!!

Unpaid taxes, fraud and error are costing Britain billions of pounds a year, Members of the British Parliament have warned.


Lawmakers said the annual losses amount to £55 billion, including the total tax gap and the cost of fraud to the public sector in the UK.

Britain's HM Revenue and Customs (HMRC) calculated that the difference between the taxes it was supposed to receive and those it managed to collect in 2011-12 was £35 billion.

Moreover, the UK’s Treasury figures showed that some £13.2 billion had to be written off due to fraud and error between April 2011 and March 2012, but the National Fraud Authority (NFA) estimated the cost of fraud to the public sector to be £20.6 billion.

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The UK’s House of Commons Public Accounts Committee (PAC) described the scale of the losses as “worryingly high”.

British Labour MP Margaret Hodge, who chairs the committee, said, "It is staggering that, in one year, the public sector was defrauded of over £20bn and the tax gap rose to £35bn."


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I suppose it depends on who your neighbours are!

goldfinger - 12 Dec 2013 15:04 - 33981 of 81564

Good point Fred tax fraud is way way higher than benefit fraud.

Care to comment on that Hays?.

doodlebug4 - 12 Dec 2013 16:46 - 33982 of 81564

Only in America ---------- it beggars belief.


'Our DAD gave us matching boob jobs!' Sisters making the most of cosmetic surgeon father's skills (they've also had Botox, nose jobs AND a belly button tuck)
Brittani had breast surgery as a gift from her father for her 18th birthday
The 25-year-old went from an A cup to C
She had rhinoplasty - the bridge of nose was narrowed - on 21st birthday

Sister Charm, 25, had breast enhancement this year, going from 32B to 32C

Had her protruding belly button re-shaped at age of ten
Both regularly have Botox and face peels adminstered by their father



Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2522510/Our-dad-gave-matching-boob-jobs-Sisters-making-cosmetic-surgeon-fathers-skills-theyve-Botox-nose-jobs-AND-belly-button-tuck.html#ixzz2nHPWuGGw
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cynic - 12 Dec 2013 16:47 - 33983 of 81564

most assuredly must be true by manyfold, and (unlike fawlty) i do differentiate between legal avoidance and illegal evasion

"innocent" football managers and overseas bank accounts spring immediately to mind as a good example in the public domain

goldfinger - 12 Dec 2013 16:51 - 33984 of 81564

Ahhhhhhhhhhhh cyners your alive. I was getting a bit concerned.

goldfinger - 12 Dec 2013 16:51 - 33985 of 81564

Saved me sending you an e-mail.
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