I have been offered shares before they come to market in a company called UBET2WIN PLC.they are being offered through a company called catalyst investment group i have never heard of this company has anyone else if so positive or negative.your help required cheers woodie

That's about 20% dilution by the look of it. Classy stuff.

You got to hand it to Tosser Moore , he can't have fleece em.

Moneyam got my details if you wish to sue me tosspot ... all imo of course.

FOR THESE SORT OF COMPANIES ONE SHOULD ALWAYS LOOK HARD AT THE OPTIONS WHICH HAVE BEEN GRANTED.. IF THE TERMS OF THE OPTIONS ARE ACHIEVED AND THE OPTIONS TAKEN UP THEN THE ASSET /DIVIDEND INCOME OF THE OTHER SHAREHOLDERS CAN BE SEVERELY REDUCED.
ON TOP OF , OR IN ADDITION, THE DIRECTORS CAN AWARD THEMSELVES FURTHER OPTIONS AND SO THE BALL ROLLS ON

IN COMPANIES LIKE THIS THERE CAN BE NEGLIBLE HIDDEN VALUES I.E. ALL THE ASSETS ARE AT "FULL" VALUE. IN ADDITION THE FIXED AND INTANGIBLE ASSETS MAY HAVE LITTLE VALUE IF THE COMPANY CEASES BUSINESS.

I HAVE JUST SPIED THE EXCELLENT POSTING NO 33 OF SUPERMONO........THE ALLOCATION/USE OF WARRANTS CAN BE ANOTHER DISGUSTING ARRANGEMENT TO TRAP THE UNWARY BY THE EROSION OF THE VALUE OF THEIR HOLDING

how many other warrants are out there which can be converted into shares,on easy peasy terms, and thus drastically water down the value of shares held by existing share holders

Thought I'd relax for once and watch the test match but ..................
UBT is recommended in today's Daily Telegraph Questor column:

ubet2win

Yes, another online gambling site. Yes, it has an illiterate name that doesn't inspire confidence. And yes, this Aim-listed tiddler has a limited track record, a turnover of just 1m and a market capitalisation of 15m.

All the signs are that this is a screaming sell.

But, since listing on Aim last week, the company has caught Questor's eye, and not just because the shares have tripled to 10p. The company has only recently moved online, employing the low cost route of using Betfair's software and expertise. As a result, the tiny turnover should start to accelerate.

The main attraction with these shares, however, are the assets. Unlike most online sites ubet2win has a bricks and mortar business: cash-generative licensed pitches at all the main UK and Irish racecourses. Highly risky, yes, but ubet2win is worth a punt.

Poor Questor was on the right track to begin with but lost the plot !!

only time will tell i wished i had not sold out at 11.50 pence in the week looks like more to come with poker and casino deals still to come but over 200% profie in 4 trading days had to be banked.

Thread for the more intelligent.

https://www.moneyam.com/InvestorsRoom/posts.php?tid=8461#lastread

i still have the copies of the monthly investment magazine published by the "leading" stockbrokers KILLIK & CO......you may recall their PAUL KAVANAGH, the partner in charge of research AND THE MANAGING EDITOR OF THE MONTHLY MAG.,was a prominate writer in the SUNDAY TIMES...IF I RECALL CORRECTLY

IN THE MONTHLY INVESTMENT MAGAZINE PAUL DEVOTED A PROMINENT FEATURE TO HIS MONTHLY NAPS

VIRTUALLY ALL THE MONTH BY MONTH NAPS WERE GREAT DISASTERS. FROM THE NAPS I CAREFULLY SELECTED PSION AND KEWILL WHICH LOST ME ABOUT 90% OF MY MONEY....AND THOSE WERE PROBABLY THE BEST OF HIS STRONG RESEARCHED TIPS. I AVOIDED THE HOST OF HIS OTHER HOT TIPS SUCH AS BALTIMORE, SHERWOOD,ARM , TRAFFICMASTER,IMAGINATION,AUTONOMY.

I WOULD PREFER A BAG OF DUTCH TULIPS OR A BOWL OF SOUTH SEA BUBBLES

IF AN ENTITY IS THAT GOOD DOES IT REALLY NEED MONEY FROM THE PUBLIC....THERE ARE ENOUGH PRIVATE ENTITIES ABOUT TO GRAB THE OPPORTUNITY OF INVESTMENT NEEDS

IN THE CASE OF UBET2WIN THE SHAREHOLDERS PRIOR TO THE PUBLIC OFFERING COUPLED WITH THOSE HOLDING OPTIONS AND WARRANTS MUST BE HYSTERICAL

MY COMMENTS ARE OFF THE CUFF AND MADE AS A CONTRIBUTION TO THE DEBATE.......THERE CAN , OF COURSE, BE CONTRA POINTS AND ARGUMENTS . IT WILL BE INTERESTING AND OF VALUE TO HEAR THOSE ON A FAIR BASIS

WOODIE POSTING NO 38.....YOU MUST BE ABSOLUTELY DELIGHTED THAT YOU SOLD OUT AT 11.5P

TRUST MADNESS DID NOT PROMPT YOU TO BUY AGAIN

mp cant belive how this share went for me might buy back in at lower level looking for 3.5 -4 pence range

Nice to read your comments.
Occasionally,a share price has a different momentum or "buzz" about it as it takes off.This is going to go up,no matter what,and go up a lot whatever I think about the nonsensical attitude behind all the buying going on.This is what happened with this one.If you can grasp that the punters are all caught up in a mass frenzy of buying rather worthless shares propelled by greed and a desire "not to miss the boat"then,and only then you can calmly join the throng and cash in on the thing.
The only rpoblem with this form of investing is that you have to get it right or you can get very burnt!
GREAT TIP WOODIE!!!Next one please!
ETHEL

ethal thanks for praise i was lucky that i was offered them before they came to market so i was in front straight away as long as they was marked up on opening day which it was .

looking back on my previous posts post number 42 i said i might buy back at a lower level the price today is below what i was looking for but i am not keen as the co have in 9 months not taken the co foreward, from when it came onto the market.if you are thinking of buying beware as the spread is to wide.

this chart tells if the co has made any headway since it came to the market.

Heading downwards again...UBT can't sustain its sp...4.25p now

How in gods name is this company valued at 7 million ????

What a joke.

I am also led to believe from someone very reliable that a punter from North Wales has won about 20k off ubet2win in the past 5 weeks.

LOL.

Strong sell.

looking back at my post no 45 in april the company has still not made any progress and still not worth buying from a investment point of view.taken from the results in june
" Financial review


2005 was a difficult year for on-course trading which was the Company's only
source of income during the year. Margins were eroded as a larger than usual
number of favourites were winning races. Added to this, increased competition
from betting exchanges had a further adverse effect on margins as more and more
bets were channelled through the exchanges rather that through the racecourses.


On course bookmakers have had to live with these difficulties, although there
are signs that the situation is improving and we hope the situation will improve
during 2006. The year to 31 December 2005 was very much a start up period of the
Company and the results reflect this.


Post year end events


January 2006 saw the Company establish its Poker game facility online as well as
its telephone betting service. In April 2006 we launched our online Sportsbook,
which enabled betting online in a wide variety of sports. It is hoped that these
will be areas of high growth for the Company during 2006. Marketing for these
services has yet to be undertaken but already levels of trade are ahead of
expectations.



Strategy and Outlook


Ubet2win's objective is to build and expand its internet gaming and telephone
betting services. Whilst considerable progress has been made in establishing
these services much has still to be done to improve, expand and enhance them.

On course betting facilities will continue to be operated at the majority of the
major racecourses as this gives the Ubet2win brand a high profile presence and
an opportunity to market the Company and in particular its online services.


It is intended to enhance shareholder value by continued expansion of business
both organically and by strategic acquisition if available.


I look forward to 2006 being pivotal in the development of your company, as it
is poised and has in place the facilities to allow it to take opportunities to
grow to a higher level."
it looks like there has still been no headway in new revenue stream.dyor

If you buy for 3.25p and sell on the next positive news, still very risky. I have done a little research and think there site is not doing too good. Here are the stats:

Estimated Visitors : 6,500 visits in the previous 30 days.
Traffic Rank for ubet2win.co.uk : 992,892 down 184,785 Average over 3 months
Reach per million users: 0.5% (down 41%) over 3 months
Page Views per user: 6.8 pages (up 79%) over 3 months

This information is from alexa.com and traficestimator.com...
I will be keeping an eye on these figures and how they change

tonker the above is part of the last rns that was released it was not positive hence the sell off, there might not be a positive rns for some time.

I wouldn't touch this one at all. The website is very poor, the markets they offer are even worse, and to date as far as I know they haven't promoted the site at all.
To have not got themselves listed on any odds comparison site to date is extremely poor in my view.

This is one share where I was worried about selling too early, but it would appear that I have done the right thing for once.... I bought in the float, and sold them at about 11p if I remember correctly, banking a good profit for a few days investment.

However, in true style, I re-invested the entire proceeds in "Israeli Acquisitor 1 PLC" on Ofex, which has gone south since floatation, with a sell price half what I bought them for.

I still have a few UBT shares in an EIS scheme, I only wish they (the EIS manager) had the foresight to sell them at the peak as well!!!

There needs to be a lot of good news to get this one moving again, and like Woodie and Trigger45, I can't see where the good news is going to come from. However, hopefully the Management will have something up their sleeves !!!

Regards,

NM