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stanelco .......a new thread (SEO)     

bosley - 20 Feb 2004 09:34

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for more information about stanelco click on the links.

driver's research page link
http://www.moneyam.com/InvestorsRoom/posts.php?tid=7681#lastread
website link
http://www.stanelco.co.uk/index.htm


NielsJensen - 25 Apr 2005 22:26 - 3409 of 27111

Bosley. Where did you get the 4 to 5 from?

As far as I can see the top price was 10.25p. I quote:

"Howard White was granted options over 975,610 Ordinary 0.1p shares on 3 February
2005 for ten years which are exercisable from 3 February 2008 at an exercise
price of 10.25p. Following this grant Howard White holds options over 975,610
Ordinary 0.1p shares."

Now, you DON'T grant share options way lower than the current share price.

Unless I've misunderstood something here, I'm out.

I truly hope I'm wrong. Please explain.....

stockdog - 25 Apr 2005 22:30 - 3410 of 27111

Don't be daft NielsJensen - the SP WAS 10.25p on Feb 3rd!

Bosley was referring to these options being exercised at 10.25p (february's strike price) in the future when the SP is 4-5 - keep up!

SD

NielsJensen - 25 Apr 2005 22:44 - 3411 of 27111

NielsJensen - 25 Apr 2005 22:44 - 3412 of 27111

NielsJensen - 25 Apr 2005 23:01 - 3413 of 27111

Stockdog, yes, I was daft. Sorry.

However, I still don't understand why an option granted in February at 10.25p should mean the price could rise to 4.

Niels.

EWRobson - 25 Apr 2005 23:13 - 3414 of 27111

NJ: bos was quoting driver not the RNS. lol! Don't need to be that envious if we are still holding our shares bought at 4p to 22p. Oh! perhaps you are doubting that the sp will move to 4. Silly man! Don't you know these things are fore-ordained. Its called destiny. Its called intellectual copyright with exponential growth! The sums are a doddle really! rofl! (andysmith will prove it if you ask him nicely!)

Eric

bhunt1910 - 25 Apr 2005 23:46 - 3415 of 27111

Eric - trust you went for the personalised number plate "SEO 1" - or has Bos already snapped it up ??

Good Luck

Baza

EWRobson - 25 Apr 2005 23:55 - 3416 of 27111

Had to accept the existing ZTZ - fine for a dozy character like me. EWR

aldwickk - 26 Apr 2005 08:35 - 3417 of 27111

Streaming prices still not working right, all prices showing as unknown.

bhunt1910 - 26 Apr 2005 08:47 - 3418 of 27111

All buys so far except 2 trades

Baza

bosley - 26 Apr 2005 10:02 - 3419 of 27111

morning. looks like the tree shaking has begun in anticipation of the next rns.

overgrowth - 26 Apr 2005 10:09 - 3420 of 27111

bos - I agree - excessive mark downs on minimal volume, though I see a few canny buyers are snapping them up at the bargain prices.

overgrowth - 26 Apr 2005 11:39 - 3421 of 27111

Some intruiging 'B' and 'M' transactions going on - rapidly shifting the bid/offer to 21p/21.75p.

This suggests that some brokers and MMs were getting short of shares and are topping up from their mates in anticipation of the next news.

If buying pressure is strong and some of these guys don't have many shares to sell, the price will rocket!

EWRobson - 26 Apr 2005 12:09 - 3422 of 27111

Very interesting, og. Many brokers double as MarketMakers - is there any clear distinction in the code? Evolution, for instance, are MMs in SEO but will they necessarily be shown as M if trading? Doesn't it also tend to distort the figures used for such things as momentum: a B or M sale must also have a buyer so there must be a case for leaving them out of the various analyses. The other thing I noticed from looking at the transactions was evidence of short selling early in the day with buyers coming in at aound 9 a.m. as the institutions arrived for work! If thats the case, then these efforts aren't working and are likely to peter out. I tend to agree that the next RNS is likely to lead to a break-out north, even if it is "just" confirmation of the completion of the ASDA supplier trial and initial order, initiating the 1 year exclusivity deal.

Eric

bhunt1910 - 26 Apr 2005 12:14 - 3423 of 27111

I have just had an "interesting" conversation with the fund manager at one of the major Fund Managment (insurance company) houses. A FTSE 50 company - I cannot give names - just in case they monitor the board.

First I asked him whether SEO was on his radar - and he confirmed that they were aware of it - but when I asked him if he could comment on whether he thought it was a good investment and would they be buying it - he apologised - but did not think he could talk to me about it any further.

Now I dont know how to read that - whether that was standard policy - or whether they have an interest or not - nevertheless - the fact that it was on their radar was good news. I thought it worth letting U know

Baza

EWRobson - 26 Apr 2005 13:12 - 3424 of 27111

Interesting, baza. A big advantage of going through the 100m cap barrier is that it automatically comes onto the radar of many fund managers. Also the small-cap index. Then we come back to a somewhat low liquidity and there is potential for an exciting surge on the next piece of significant news.

Eric

EWRobson - 26 Apr 2005 13:15 - 3425 of 27111

og: 1,003,000 and 500,000 trades gone though as X; forget what that is or is it unknown; if so, why? EWR

stockdog - 26 Apr 2005 13:18 - 3426 of 27111

X is a transaction effected as an agency cross or a riskless principal transaction at the same price and on the same terms (this requires one trade report) - which leaves me none the wiser frankly!

SD

overgrowth - 26 Apr 2005 13:31 - 3427 of 27111

Agency cross - Agency crosses occur when a broker receives perfectly offsetting trades simultaneously. The broker must send down the orders to the trading floor, announce the bid and manually cross the trades after no better bid is made.

Riskless Principal - This is a principal transaction that synthesizes an agency transaction by removing the risks involved with holding a position. Large institutions might have legal and regulatory reasons for performing such a transaction.

When a broker-dealer is acting on its own behalf, as opposed to brokering transactions for its clients, it must properly denote to the exchange that it is doing so. These kinds of transactions are also known as "principal transactions".

driver - 26 Apr 2005 16:26 - 3428 of 27111

I agree with bos I will never understand how it works, just been looking at TFC it has NO buys at all today not one yet the sp is only down 1% ? .
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