Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

whichever way the election goes, the summation i made of you is true regardless of same

Good news -

Plan to cap benefit at two children: New mothers with three children would lose £700 in £5bn welfare crackdown
Parents with three children would lose out on £696 a year in plan
Those earning less than £30k will also be denied credits worth £2,725
Proposed by Tory MP Nadhim Zahawi - recently appointed to No 10's policy board to come up with vote-winning policies




http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2523819/Plan-cap-benefit-children-New-mothers-children-lose-700-5bn-welfare-crackdown.html

Those earning less than £30k will also be denied credits worth £2,725
why? .... have you really got that right? .... or is it just part of the cap for having more than 2 children?

A few more couples need to get a television on these cold winter nights instead of having kids and relying on the state. I hope the council house given to the youngster goes soon as well. I went over Harlow new town yesterday, no joke the amount of teens pushing a baby about. No idea where the dads are. :-)) Its me and you paying for their new mobiles, designer trainers and bloody council house.

The country is in a mess and these sorts have to be squeezed, then perhaps they may have a think about their actions. These youngsters are not daft a baby gets you on the property market.

Sorry you have kids you pay for them.

DC - it's not quite that easy, though parental collusion for sure is sometimes applied - e.g. the mother has to be made homeless and not of her own volition .... indeed, i'm unsure whether a baby is a prerequisite in the equation, though for sure it will add pressure on the council who are obligated to find suitable or at least adequate housing

I know cynic :-)) .The daughter can soon be made homeless (or more a threat to the council of being thrown onto the street). Lets say the system can be played very well at the moment. These sorts may well regret their actions as the national debt has to start falling in the near future. No I would not like to be in their position in future years as no doubt things are going to change. Retirement ages are being lengthened
and these sorts are to me not a lot different to the immigrants that drain the country.

The council list for a house in these parts when I last looked was about 7 yrs for mr average on the street. He/she has no chance with the goings on above.

The voices of the Con party.

I hope you boys are going to write the placards and carry them proudly in front of your party with an icon of IDS and Waving Dave and Theresa as priestess.

Reactionary relics of past failures comes to mind.

Perhaps, resembling the fears of and insular minority.

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The thing which strikes me is that the rest of Europe "needs" the UK less and less and if the drawbridge is drawn up, the UK will feel the cold not the EU.

Sorry boys, the days of of the Raj are over, as I guess we are in the last 18 months of having a bunch of out of touch tory reactionaries in government.

Interesting to see that many tory MPs are not considering standing for re-election in 2015.

I wonder if UKIP(BNP) will be the second party in the G.E. after showing their strength in the EU election.

That will be the time of attempts to dump Wavey Dave.

He will have to practice his U-turns.

Then you have to vote them out. They cannot be that bad, otherwise you would be down that polling station voting. At least Dave does u-turns, does that not mean he is listening. I think the labour party were to big to U-turn and never listened to the public.

I do not begin or wonder how you tick Fred. :-)) There have been thirty four odd thousand posts on this site over the last eight years and thirty three odd thousand must be from you going on about the conservatives getting this and that wrong.

BUT YOU STILL DO NOT VOTE, WORTHLESS KEEP GOING ON IS IT NOT?

No. Not at all.

V.E.

The thing which strikes me is that the rest of Europe "needs" the UK less and less and if the drawbridge is drawn up, the UK will feel the cold not the EU.
as so often, fawlty propounds his opinion as fact whereas reality is almost certainly considerably different
if it were true, then the major european media outlets would be saying so loud and clear

''The thing which strikes me is that the rest of Europe "needs" the UK less and less and if the drawbridge is drawn up, the UK will feel the cold not the EU''.

Wrong thread, see Joke For Today
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Peter O'Toole dead 81

Half the UK’s exports now go outside the EU and trade with China, India and the US is soaring.

That is why Europe needs Britain: not as an offshore center of banking and commerce, but as a difficult, questioning, stubbornly democratic partner.

The reality is that trade with the UK will continue as before if we leave. The UK is the EU's biggest trading partner inside the EU for their exports.

We have survived outside the euro. Will it make much difference if we leave Eu ?

Paperwork, stupid regulations, Brussels, ECHR to name but a few.

Cynic,

You must be deaf as well as daft.


IF, IF the UK exits the EU wait and see.

Even the Cameroon doesn't wish to leave the EU, that is why he is dodging and diving with UKIP nipping his heels.

To outsiders it is laughable.

And nearly forgot... a cool £1 billion per week net contribution so the €uroclowns can piss it up the wall.

Read an article the other day - Europe is Britain

These people have no sense of history – or don't read newspapers. Ever since it joined what was then the EEC in 1973, Britain has fashioned Europe in its own image. It achieved two principal objectives. The first was to improve the single market, set into train in the mid-1980s. The second, after the fall of the Berlin Wall in 1989, was to fight in favour of a wider union.