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THE TALK TO YOURSELF THREAD. (NOWT)     

goldfinger - 09 Jun 2005 12:25

Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

MaxK - 17 Dec 2013 09:57 - 34163 of 81564

Is the north pole boozer still there?

cynic - 17 Dec 2013 09:59 - 34164 of 81564

i guess so, but it was to exactly that pub that i was asked to take someone
not surprisingly, when this chap asked to be taken to the north pole, i assumed he was taking the piss!

Fred1new - 17 Dec 2013 10:51 - 34165 of 81564

Manuel,

Referring back to P 34146 and dud link.

You can see now what appears to me to be two identical links.

I cannot see the difference between them.

The "second" being in the original post and the first another attempt to provide a link after you posted as a dud.

The link now seems to be functioning properly.

(Interesting to know what the difference is?)

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However, it is good to see you admit to your own stupidity, which at least leads to a chance of improvement.

I have tried to review and reflect on my "political" and "philosophical" stances regularly, and unlike some recognise they are not fixed in stone and can be change or modified as circumstances change.

Again, you are entitled to chose whichever orifice to "think" with, or communicate through.
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Have a better day.


cynic - 17 Dec 2013 11:17 - 34166 of 81564

arseholes are not necessarily stupid, as you should recognise in your own reflection

cynic - 17 Dec 2013 11:35 - 34167 of 81564

i've now read that article and have not changed my mind that it is anything other than a complete load of codswallop, concocted by an ivory-towered academic who has never dared chance her arm in the real world

it starts with a typical nonsense where she keeps talking about "the state" doing x, y and z, conveniently forgetting that "the state" is actually the electorate - well, perhaps not in north korea and the like - and can you ever see the electorate putting up with a serious political party proclaiming from its platform and manifesto, "the state is a risk-taking courageous investor in the areas the private sector avoids"

thank goodness one doesn't have to take up room in the recycling bin with such garbage

Fred1new - 17 Dec 2013 11:51 - 34168 of 81564

A well thought out criticism and opinion seemingly based on little knowledge of the subject, or person concerned.

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With your abilities I can hear echoing in the recedes of my memory, one of my headmaster saying frequently "Boy you should go far!"









Admitting, under his breath the "the further and farther away the better".




cynic - 17 Dec 2013 11:54 - 34169 of 81564

fawlty - if you want to accept that woman's stuff, then that's your call .... you are such a pompous prig (i think that is sufficiently accurate) nearly all the time

one assumes your headmaster was actually addressing himself to you, in which case, he was quite a sensible chap

Haystack - 17 Dec 2013 12:05 - 34170 of 81564

The article is a hymn to Keynesian economics and therefore state intervention. This is the mantra of the left. One of the realities of university life is that it is populated by militant left leaning academics teaching Economics and Politics. They seem to be people who could not cut it in the real world. My son is studying International Politics at uni. One of his lecturers announced at the start of the term that he was a Marxist and would do his best to convert them all.

Fred1new - 17 Dec 2013 12:11 - 34171 of 81564

He had a very subtle humour and was very tolerant but challenging.

Taught me to question false premises and flawed arguments, and not make false deductions.

Pity the present nancy boys cabinet didn't have such a tutor at the Old Boys' Crammer.


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8-)

Fred1new - 17 Dec 2013 12:14 - 34172 of 81564

Hays,


I would put the comment down to Welsh Humour.

By the way what is your real world?

Shortie - 17 Dec 2013 12:22 - 34173 of 81564

Haystack "One of his lecturers announced at the start of the term that he was a Marxist and would do his best to convert them all."

Not such a bad thing, the analysis of crisis in capitalism v's the credit crunch we've just experienced is a valid arguement, proven you could argue by the US massive QE exercise still happening..

cynic - 17 Dec 2013 12:24 - 34174 of 81564

shame you didn't absorb those lessons then ..... indeed, some may consider you a complete numpty who did very little of use after being discharged from an education which failed you

Fred1new - 17 Dec 2013 12:45 - 34175 of 81564

Cynic,

In spite of being dyslexic and being told I was lazy and scraping along the bottom of the result tables until in my twenties. Then, I recognised my problems and found ways around the problem and did surprisingly well academically and was more than expectedly rewarded for what I did.

Talking with school day friends the other day, they said they couldn't understand my supporting role in the class results table. (Other than sciences.)

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One thing which did annoy that head and others was that I could beat them at chess. (Even when playing with my left hand.)

Pity, they didn't look at the reason for my "paper failings". (Other members of the family had dyslexic traits, but recognised and have done well academically.)

I still can't spell "academically" properly the first time.

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PS.

I blame myself for my "failings" unlike this failing government and you seem to do.

It seem it was always somebody else's fault, perhaps Mummy's or Daddy's.


cynic - 17 Dec 2013 12:50 - 34176 of 81564

please identify where i have blamed anyone other than myself for my mistakes ...... 1000/1 says you won't find any

what diff does it makes whether you move chess pieces with your left or right hand?
i can certainly find my mouth with either, and when i was more supple, with either foot too

Fred1new - 17 Dec 2013 12:53 - 34177 of 81564

PS>

Forgot.

Eton and such were used as surrogate parents.

Perhaps. those institutions could be blamed.

I understand where the scapegoat and blame culture comes from.

Fred1new - 17 Dec 2013 13:06 - 34178 of 81564

As far as right and left handed chess players they look at the board from a different angle.















8-)

doodlebug4 - 17 Dec 2013 13:12 - 34179 of 81564

Isn't it the job of teachers & lecturers to deliver facts and encourage learning and debate among students, rather than preach their own opinionated doctrines?

cynic - 17 Dec 2013 13:13 - 34180 of 81564

ah - so you can't find any examples of where i blame others for my mistakes or shortcomings .... well there's a surprise

with regards to eton, and similar (very) high grade educational establishments, you have clearly not done your homework properly but merely trotted out the party dogma (now there's a surprise)

many public schools now offer full or weekly boarding or day
assuredly boarding does not suit all, but where it does, there's a great deal to be said for it

further, the top schools offer a very high standard indeed across all aspects and fields that can loosely be called educational, and that is why entry to them remains very competitive indeed

whether or not it is fair that such schools are generally only available to those with deep wallets is another matter entirely
however, it is certainly true that many parents will scrimp and save to send their children to such schools, for they perceive them to offer a (far) better education in all its senses than those available to them in the state system

Fred1new - 17 Dec 2013 13:26 - 34181 of 81564

Manuel.

Refer you back to remark, "it was not the educational establishment that failed me, but rather my own lack of application and stupidity in not recognising the multitude of opportunities presented"

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Perhaps, in some cases, the material used by some of these "institutions" has been found wanting.

cynic - 17 Dec 2013 13:51 - 34182 of 81564

certainly that particular school did not especially suit me nor me it, but that was more than 50 years ago ......

on the other hand, my 2 sons went to a different school, but also boarded (my daughter did not), and i have nothing but the highest praise for that establishment ..... both are very different in all ways, and yet the school drew out the best in them; exactly what one would hope for

the same applied to my daughter
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