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Referendum : to be in Europe or not to be ?, that is the question ! (REF)     

required field - 03 Feb 2016 10:00

Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

jimmy b - 24 Jun 2016 10:00 - 3425 of 12628

Showed the British still have spirit . Now we need a strong team in this transition period .

Claret Dragon - 24 Jun 2016 10:02 - 3426 of 12628

The way I ıntend to trade now ıs to short ınto strength on Indıces at certaın pıvot levels. No poınt holdıng anythıng from here for a few years now. US earnıngs season comıng up and as far as I am concerned ıts all faıry dust thats been keepıng ıt up for so long.

cynic - 24 Jun 2016 10:06 - 3427 of 12628

3403 - totally agree

Haystack - 24 Jun 2016 10:08 - 3428 of 12628

Spain has proposed "shared sovereignty" over Gibraltar, the strategically important British Oversea Territory which shares its northern border with Spain.

VICTIM - 24 Jun 2016 10:10 - 3429 of 12628

Can't we have a referendum on that Hays .

MaxK - 24 Jun 2016 10:16 - 3430 of 12628

Depends on the details re spain/gib, but it could be a way forward.

required field - 24 Jun 2016 10:24 - 3431 of 12628

Just winding the Scots up....might have a referendum as to whether the other home nations allow them to remain in the UK......

VICTIM - 24 Jun 2016 10:25 - 3432 of 12628

Whether you like Trump or hate him in his BBC , Brexit is a great thing , he's not far off . At Turnberry .

required field - 24 Jun 2016 10:26 - 3433 of 12628

Anyway : as far as DC is concerned ; we have gone from Bucks Fizz/making your mind up to the Brotherhood of man....save all your kisses for me.....

mentor - 24 Jun 2016 10:29 - 3434 of 12628

Strange but true

REFERENDUM

LEAVE won the race

Now is time to face the Market as expected not happy with the results, but that is another matter.

I fought this campaign on the leave side and I was surprised during the time by the polls mainly in favour of remain, yet when reading many financial threads (this one included) and talking to people on the street (naturally that was not in Northern Ireland or Gibraltar), was given me a 10 v 3 in favour to LEAVE.

hangon - 24 Jun 2016 11:07 - 3435 of 12628

Required Field:- It's a thought - England is supplying a lot of the Support ( and money), yet we are being "Rubbished" at every opportunity, probably by a Minority of Scots..... but nevertheless quite a loud minority - on which several Politicians have built their careers.
As soon as there is a split, that will silence them . . . and none too soon IMHO.

Sadly for those that prefer to be joined, by culture, land-borders, etc. will have to put up with whatever the new-wave of Politicians can muster.

Britain:
Possibly, ( but I don't know ), something similar is happening with confirmed BREXIT . . . . I await to hear from the many Overseas "Experts" that might attempt to regain our friendship - as this Exit has shown they backed the wrong side. Those faces that we've seen endlessly spouting on the UK-Media ( to Remain), will also have to readjust their clothes . . . . not easy . . . so we may see a Political churning of Parties, as the "What Next" camps merge.
Borris looks like the "best" gatekeeper for PM ( er, IMHO), as he's know throughout the World . . . and will have Stability written all-over . . . but he'll be on a stout leash to prevent Mouth opening . . . until such time as someone like M.Gove can settle into the 2017-Calm.

It's exciting . . . . and look at the fools in Markets . . . . A result that was ever 50-50 has created panic amongst the flippers . . . . the lull after the Storm will show us who our friends are . . . and maybe a joining of like-minds across Seas and Oceans . . . as modern communications and trade-routes mean we could have a Trans Trade T... ( I'll ask anyone reading thus far to suggest a T-word, so the New Order can be known as TTT.)
-OR- suggest another 3/4 Letter-Group -?

Investments . . . I see LLOY, Taylor Wimpey, and some other Housebuilders are looking a bit sick - is this because the Market thinks there will be Zero-need for house buying? How silly.

Claret Dragon - 24 Jun 2016 11:19 - 3436 of 12628

What level does the pound need to drop to before an Interest rate rıse to support ıt.? Any thoughts.

VICTIM - 24 Jun 2016 11:35 - 3437 of 12628

EU getting snotty want us to start process of leaving organisation as soon as possible .

Claret Dragon - 24 Jun 2016 11:40 - 3438 of 12628

Pull up the draw brıdge today before they do more damage ın Brussels. Get your retalıatıon ın early.

Fred1new - 24 Jun 2016 11:41 - 3439 of 12628

The referendum will go down in history that Cameron leader and Right wing of the Tory Party were responsible for exiting the EU in 2016.

The referendum was initiated by Cameron as a stunt to maintain himself in his and an attempt to reunite a split Conservative party and split ideology at the expense of the “public purse”.

It was ill-conceived and unfortunately the UK will continue to pay for the bill for actions.

I hope that my expectations for the next 5-10 years are wrong.

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Just heard Boris and Gov saying that Cameron is a principled, honourable and brave man.

I need a “god” to protect me from such, if they are right.

The rats have started to fight for “power” and Dave is ducking out of the chaos which he has partially created for the UK.

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I wonder when the next General Election will be?

Who will the “public” vote to be the next bunch of incompetents in “political power” of the UK “gravy train”?
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Well, the "leavers" have won and can chant “we have won”.

A bit like Europe in 1945 after “winning” WW2 and then looking around at the carnage.
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cynic - 24 Jun 2016 11:49 - 3440 of 12628

well fred, you didn't even bother to cast a vote - as of course is your democratic right!

however, much as you might like to blame DC - of course you do - your red buddy corbyn who was meant to spearhead the remain campaign for labour was almost nowhere to be seen
reports are that that had a significant impact

nor should it be forgotten that much blame should also be laid at the doors of the eu plutocrats who were (and remain) completely intransigent in their total refusal to see, let alone admit, that the eu needs root and branch reform

Claret Dragon - 24 Jun 2016 11:49 - 3441 of 12628

The vote wasnt about Red Or Blue. It was about keepıng a modıcum of a country we know wether you are from the shıres or an ınner cıty.

VICTIM - 24 Jun 2016 11:51 - 3442 of 12628

Well Freda you told us all the immigrants would vote Remain but as a big Leave vote came from the Midlands which i would presume is large on Immigrants , you got that wrong . You said the markets favoured the Remain , you bragged about the betting in favour of Remain . Then YOU yes YOU had an oppertunity to vote for Remain , but did you . The last person on here to moan is YOU .

jimmy b - 24 Jun 2016 11:54 - 3443 of 12628


A bit like Europe in 1945 after “winning” WW2 and then looking around at the carnage.
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Fred i expected nothing less from you ,that comment above just shows how ignorant you are , you lost again now get over it .


ExecLine - 24 Jun 2016 11:59 - 3444 of 12628

I regret not putting some big money on Leave last night but at 7 (or 8) to 1 it just felt like it would be chucking it away.

Conversely, to make a profit betting the other way, and for Remain, only meant a small profit return for a large bet.

In the end I just couldn't be arsed with doing either.

But thinking about it, some must have lost an absolute stonking fortune betting on Remain during the last 48 hrs or so.
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