Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

I regret not putting some big money on Leave last night but at 7 (or 8) to 1 it just felt like it would be chucking it away.

Conversely, to make a profit betting the other way, and for Remain, only meant a small profit return for a large bet.

In the end I just couldn't be arsed with doing either.

But thinking about it, some must have lost an absolute stonking fortune betting on Remain during the last 48 hrs or so.

A new Conservative leader Freda, bring it on! Hope Jezza stays but if the Labour Party keep him they are doomed. We need a strong govt and a credible opposition. Independence Day! Fabulous.

It would appear that our friend(?), Jean Claude Juncker, wants the process for the UK to leave the EU to start immediately.

One can tell how he's a politician and not a business man.

Are they really our friends and allies? I fear not.

Shock Horror!! Motion of no confidence in Jeremy Corbyn issued :0)

Serves him right for not getting a proper suit and doing up his tie, IMHO.

currency traders got battered very badly twice

Check how your area voted;

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/23/leave-or-remain-eu-referendum-results-and-live-maps/

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Missing nothing on this site. The intellectual capacities of chairs. Think Pyrrhic Victory. Look it up if need be.

ooh we have an intellectual. Must have an O Level

A Pyrrhic victory is a victory that inflicts such a devastating toll on the victor that it is tantamount to defeat. Someone who wins a Pyrrhic victory has been victorious in some way. However, the heavy toll negates any sense of achievement or profit. Another term for this would be "hollow victory".
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Maybe it's you that has the the intellectual capacities of chairs lian !

I suppose that if Scotland leaves the Union we can deport the Jocks and erect a hard border. The Romans had the right idea.

More seriously, can you imagine Scotland with falling oil prices.

Nicola said she would be bringing in legislation to leave in the event that the Scottish Parliament wanted a referendum. She would want a referendum during the two year period that it will take us to leave. The reason for that is that it would then be Scotland staying in the EU rather than Scotland joining the EU which is what it would be after the two years.

There are a couple of problems with that. Firstly she has lost her majority in the Scottish Parliament and it would vote down her ideas. Secondly, the EU has previously made it clear that it would regard Scotland as joining irrespective of when it happened. It looks like she is doing a bit of grandstanding.

There is a petition with 100,000 signatures for a second referendum on the EU. Fat chance of that!

I wouldn't write it off...

Maybe the EU will offer lots of concession, saying "please stay, we didn't mean it".

Scotland would have to accept the Euro , i don't think so .

They want a quick renegotiation because they fear contagion. Well tough, they will have to wait until we are good and ready. Time is on our side.

They had their chance , Merkel and Juncker nearly in tears .