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Referendum : to be in Europe or not to be ?, that is the question ! (REF)     

required field - 03 Feb 2016 10:00

Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

ExecLine - 24 Jun 2016 12:05 - 3446 of 12628

It would appear that our friend(?), Jean Claude Juncker, wants the process for the UK to leave the EU to start immediately.

One can tell how he's a politician and not a business man.

Are they really our friends and allies? I fear not.

Chris Carson - 24 Jun 2016 12:09 - 3447 of 12628

Shock Horror!! Motion of no confidence in Jeremy Corbyn issued :0)

ExecLine - 24 Jun 2016 12:10 - 3448 of 12628

Serves him right for not getting a proper suit and doing up his tie, IMHO.

cynic - 24 Jun 2016 12:15 - 3449 of 12628

currency traders got battered very badly twice

ExecLine - 24 Jun 2016 12:19 - 3450 of 12628

Check how your area voted;

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/23/leave-or-remain-eu-referendum-results-and-live-maps/

MaxK - 24 Jun 2016 12:37 - 3451 of 12628

MaxK - 24 Jun 2016 12:40 - 3452 of 12628

oops

Iain - 24 Jun 2016 12:55 - 3453 of 12628

Missing nothing on this site. The intellectual capacities of chairs. Think Pyrrhic Victory. Look it up if need be.

iturama - 24 Jun 2016 13:03 - 3454 of 12628

ooh we have an intellectual. Must have an O Level

jimmy b - 24 Jun 2016 13:03 - 3455 of 12628

A Pyrrhic victory is a victory that inflicts such a devastating toll on the victor that it is tantamount to defeat. Someone who wins a Pyrrhic victory has been victorious in some way. However, the heavy toll negates any sense of achievement or profit. Another term for this would be "hollow victory".
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Maybe it's you that has the the intellectual capacities of chairs lian !

Haystack - 24 Jun 2016 13:34 - 3456 of 12628

I suppose that if Scotland leaves the Union we can deport the Jocks and erect a hard border. The Romans had the right idea.

Haystack - 24 Jun 2016 13:41 - 3457 of 12628

More seriously, can you imagine Scotland with falling oil prices.

Nicola said she would be bringing in legislation to leave in the event that the Scottish Parliament wanted a referendum. She would want a referendum during the two year period that it will take us to leave. The reason for that is that it would then be Scotland staying in the EU rather than Scotland joining the EU which is what it would be after the two years.

There are a couple of problems with that. Firstly she has lost her majority in the Scottish Parliament and it would vote down her ideas. Secondly, the EU has previously made it clear that it would regard Scotland as joining irrespective of when it happened. It looks like she is doing a bit of grandstanding.

Haystack - 24 Jun 2016 13:42 - 3458 of 12628

There is a petition with 100,000 signatures for a second referendum on the EU. Fat chance of that!

MaxK - 24 Jun 2016 13:46 - 3459 of 12628

I wouldn't write it off...

Haystack - 24 Jun 2016 13:52 - 3460 of 12628

Maybe the EU will offer lots of concession, saying "please stay, we didn't mean it".

jimmy b - 24 Jun 2016 14:08 - 3461 of 12628

Scotland would have to accept the Euro , i don't think so .

iturama - 24 Jun 2016 14:10 - 3462 of 12628

They want a quick renegotiation because they fear contagion. Well tough, they will have to wait until we are good and ready. Time is on our side.

jimmy b - 24 Jun 2016 14:12 - 3463 of 12628

They had their chance , Merkel and Juncker nearly in tears .

VICTIM - 24 Jun 2016 14:16 - 3464 of 12628

When we get disasters , murders , ISIS beheadings etc I always wonder why these news readers show no emotion , they have to be professional they say . But iv'e just watched the BBC news now and to see Sophie Raworth's face it was a picture of absolute disgust , anger , disbelief , so where's the professional person now . Typical BBC thought they'd conned everyone .

Fred1new - 24 Jun 2016 14:21 - 3465 of 12628

The Scots won't want to be stuck with the pound sterling.
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