Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

It doesn't matter if the public thinks that Osborne or Balls is right about cost of living conditions. The policies will continue anyway. What matters is who is actually right. Osborne is planning that as the economy improves next year living standards will improve, probably towards the end of the year. It should be just in time for a feel good period before the election. It doesn't really matter what the public think day to day. The only time it matters is at the time of an election.

Hays,

HO, HO, Ho.

Seasons greetings!

It would seem that you support the unscrupulous manipulation of the economy at the expense of the country and the general public, for corrupt political gains. (Even personal gains.)

Mind it is what I would expect of you and the present con party leadership.

But I don’t think the voters will be as gullible as you think, and many of the unpleasant effects and failings Osborne's policies will be seem, understood and felt.

They will be listed at the time of the next election!

of course, some morons don't bother to vote anyway, so they get the gov't they deserve, even if they will continue whine and whinge and gripe incessantly from here to there and onwards to eternity

I didn't say they were deliberately manipulating the economy for political benefit. I said it would turn out to be beneficial for an election. The timescales happen to coincide. And yes, I do think the public are gullible. They always have been in the past. The running of the economy is what was necessary. You may not like it, but you have to put up with it especially as you do not vote. That means your voice will not be heard at the only time it matters.

Hays....LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL

your best yet.............."Haystack 28 Dec 2013 12:27 - 34611 of 34613

"It doesn't matter if the public thinks that Osborne or Balls is right about cost of living conditions". ...........................ends

Ohhhhh dear, BRAIN puddled.

Duplicated..........

MailOnline - news,politics.. Saturday, Dec 28 2013 3AM

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As I said, it doesn't matter what the public think about the Osborne/Ball fight. It only matters who ends up right.

So far Balls has scored zero right. The odds are that he will be wrong again.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-25535327

Cynic,

You seemed to be more and more constipated.

Why don't you flush yourself out with a pint or two of milk of magnesia.

It looks just like milk and would do the world a lot of good.

Balls has been correct all along he warned that we would flat line and we did, in fact we missed a triple dip recession by the skin of our teeth not forgetting we lost our AAA rating twice and Osborne made a mess of two budgets and two autumn statements.

By all means you stay in denial Hays but the public arent with you and the EEC elections will see UKIP causing mass panic amongst Tory Ranks.

electionista ‏@electionista 26 Dec
UK - Survation poll for #EP2014 elections: LAB 32%, UKIP 25%, CON 24%, LDEM 8%, GRN 6%

UKIP UKIP UKIP UKIP UKIP UKIP.

The Chancellor that Hazyone and Manuel venerate and the CON party put in charge as there wasn’t any other in the party able to count!
Tremendous experience of home economics.

From Wicked:


"Osborne is one of the old Anglo-Irish aristocracy, known in Ireland as the Ascendancy. He is the heir apparent to the Osborne baronetcy.[3][4] He was educated at St Paul's School, London, and Magdalen College, Oxford, before working for the Conservative Party as a researcher, special adviser, speechwriter, and strategist. In 2005, he ran David Cameron's successful party-leadership campaign and was made Shadow Chancellor.

After graduating in 1992, Osborne did a few part-time jobs including as a data entry clerk, typing the details of recently deceased into a NHS computer database.[13] He also briefly worked for a week at Selfridges, mainly re-folding towels.[13]

In 1993, Osborne originally intended to pursue a career in journalism. He was shortlisted for but failed to gain a place on The Times trainee scheme, and instead did freelance work on the Peterborough diary column of The Daily Telegraph. Some time later, an Oxford friend of his, journalist George Bridges, alerted Osborne to a research vacancy at Conservative Central Office.[13]"



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Some think he still has his nappies changed for him by Aschroft.

Autumn Statement poll: the public back Balls over Osborne
The first poll on the Autumn Statement shows that voters agree with Balls that Osborne is "in denial about the cost of living crisis".

http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/2013/12/autumn-statement-poll-public-back-balls-over-osborne

By a slim majority, voters believe that the Autumn Statement will improve the economy (40-38) but worryingly for the Tories, 54% believe that it will harm public services, compared to just 21% who agree. Osborne and David Cameron have long argued that austerity has proved that the state can do "more with less" but they've yet to convince the public.

The poll is also a reminder of how toxic the Tory brand remains. Despite measures such as the freeze in fuel duty, the introduction of universal free school meals for infant pupils, the £1,000 cut in business rates for small firms and the imposition of capital gains tax on foreign property owners (as opposed to tax cuts targeted at high-earners), the public are much more likely to believe that the Autumn Statement will benefit the rich than the poor.

Forty seven per cent believe that it was good for "rich people" (just 5% believe it was bad), while 44% believe that it was bad for the poor (14% believe it was good). Even worse for the Tories, 42% believe that the Autumn Statement was bad for "people like me". This shows that the Tories aren't just struggling to win support among "the poor" but also among the "squeezed middle". If they're to have any hope of beating Labour in May 2015, they will need these ratings to shift significantly over the next year.

quite amazing fawlty ..... you don't mind telling everyone else that they're a bunch of dickheads and so and so on and so on ad nauseam, but like a schoolground bully, you don't care for it much when the tables are turned or if someone even has the temerity to disagree with you

i think we need to revert to f(ull)o(f)s(hit)-fred which is actually far more apposite, especially you are permanently on your "throne" from where you pontificate incessantly ...... perhaps if you took a packet of immodium at election time, you'ld feel safe enough to get off your arse and go to the polling booth

Balls has been hopelessly wrong on every prediction. He claimed that Osborne's policies would cause a double dip recession and maybe a triple dip - wrong, he claimed that we would have millions extra unemployed and unemployment would keep rising- wrong, he predicted that growth would not return without more borrowing - wrong. There are more. Balls is a turkey that has been stuffed.

Update - Labour lead at 5
by YouGov in Politics
Fri December 20, 2013 6 a.m. GMT

Latest YouGov / The Sun results 19th December - Con 34%, Lab 39%, LD 11%, UKIP 12%;

If you made a mistake this year of buying Christmas presents for your kids/grandchildren, then here's a motivational clip of a 3yr old kid playing the drums.

He's accompanying a 'Guns n' Roses' number called 'Sweet Child o' Mine':