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THE TALK TO YOURSELF THREAD. (NOWT)     

goldfinger - 09 Jun 2005 12:25

Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

goldfinger - 28 Dec 2013 14:12 - 34619 of 81564

electionista ‏@electionista 26 Dec
UK - Survation poll for #EP2014 elections: LAB 32%, UKIP 25%, CON 24%, LDEM 8%, GRN 6%

UKIP UKIP UKIP UKIP UKIP UKIP.

Fred1new - 28 Dec 2013 14:14 - 34620 of 81564

The Chancellor that Hazyone and Manuel venerate and the CON party put in charge as there wasn’t any other in the party able to count!
Tremendous experience of home economics.

From Wicked:


"Osborne is one of the old Anglo-Irish aristocracy, known in Ireland as the Ascendancy. He is the heir apparent to the Osborne baronetcy.[3][4] He was educated at St Paul's School, London, and Magdalen College, Oxford, before working for the Conservative Party as a researcher, special adviser, speechwriter, and strategist. In 2005, he ran David Cameron's successful party-leadership campaign and was made Shadow Chancellor.

After graduating in 1992, Osborne did a few part-time jobs including as a data entry clerk, typing the details of recently deceased into a NHS computer database.[13] He also briefly worked for a week at Selfridges, mainly re-folding towels.[13]

In 1993, Osborne originally intended to pursue a career in journalism. He was shortlisted for but failed to gain a place on The Times trainee scheme, and instead did freelance work on the Peterborough diary column of The Daily Telegraph. Some time later, an Oxford friend of his, journalist George Bridges, alerted Osborne to a research vacancy at Conservative Central Office.[13]"



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Some think he still has his nappies changed for him by Aschroft.

goldfinger - 28 Dec 2013 14:25 - 34621 of 81564

Autumn Statement poll: the public back Balls over Osborne
The first poll on the Autumn Statement shows that voters agree with Balls that Osborne is "in denial about the cost of living crisis".

http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/2013/12/autumn-statement-poll-public-back-balls-over-osborne

By a slim majority, voters believe that the Autumn Statement will improve the economy (40-38) but worryingly for the Tories, 54% believe that it will harm public services, compared to just 21% who agree. Osborne and David Cameron have long argued that austerity has proved that the state can do "more with less" but they've yet to convince the public.

The poll is also a reminder of how toxic the Tory brand remains. Despite measures such as the freeze in fuel duty, the introduction of universal free school meals for infant pupils, the £1,000 cut in business rates for small firms and the imposition of capital gains tax on foreign property owners (as opposed to tax cuts targeted at high-earners), the public are much more likely to believe that the Autumn Statement will benefit the rich than the poor.

Forty seven per cent believe that it was good for "rich people" (just 5% believe it was bad), while 44% believe that it was bad for the poor (14% believe it was good). Even worse for the Tories, 42% believe that the Autumn Statement was bad for "people like me". This shows that the Tories aren't just struggling to win support among "the poor" but also among the "squeezed middle". If they're to have any hope of beating Labour in May 2015, they will need these ratings to shift significantly over the next year.

cynic - 28 Dec 2013 14:27 - 34622 of 81564

quite amazing fawlty ..... you don't mind telling everyone else that they're a bunch of dickheads and so and so on and so on ad nauseam, but like a schoolground bully, you don't care for it much when the tables are turned or if someone even has the temerity to disagree with you

i think we need to revert to f(ull)o(f)s(hit)-fred which is actually far more apposite, especially you are permanently on your "throne" from where you pontificate incessantly ...... perhaps if you took a packet of immodium at election time, you'ld feel safe enough to get off your arse and go to the polling booth

Haystack - 28 Dec 2013 14:29 - 34623 of 81564

Balls has been hopelessly wrong on every prediction. He claimed that Osborne's policies would cause a double dip recession and maybe a triple dip - wrong, he claimed that we would have millions extra unemployed and unemployment would keep rising- wrong, he predicted that growth would not return without more borrowing - wrong. There are more. Balls is a turkey that has been stuffed.

Haystack - 28 Dec 2013 14:32 - 34624 of 81564

Update - Labour lead at 5
by YouGov in Politics
Fri December 20, 2013 6 a.m. GMT

Latest YouGov / The Sun results 19th December - Con 34%, Lab 39%, LD 11%, UKIP 12%;

ExecLine - 28 Dec 2013 14:32 - 34625 of 81564

If you made a mistake this year of buying Christmas presents for your kids/grandchildren, then here's a motivational clip of a 3yr old kid playing the drums.

He's accompanying a 'Guns n' Roses' number called 'Sweet Child o' Mine':



goldfinger - 28 Dec 2013 14:34 - 34626 of 81564

LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL

Hays loves his Mickey Mouse Economy, he even suggested we would overtake Germany as the 4th strongest economy. He he he ha ha ha ho ho ho.

You carry on believing all the false Tory claims on the economies main agenda and then come election night you are going to get the biggest shock of your life.

aldwickk - 28 Dec 2013 14:35 - 34627 of 81564

" He also briefly worked for a week at Selfridges, mainly re-folding towels "

Fred looking down at the working class doing a low paid job , from Fred the Champagne socilist

Haystack - 28 Dec 2013 14:37 - 34628 of 81564

Election - clear Conservative majority with UKIP nowhere with zero MPs.

goldfinger - 28 Dec 2013 14:40 - 34629 of 81564

Micheal Portillio = sad man on a train

Haystack = sad man in a off license

choo choo

aldwickk - 28 Dec 2013 14:49 - 34630 of 81564

Fred , MoneyAM's Derek Hatton

Fred1new - 28 Dec 2013 15:09 - 34631 of 81564

Manuel.

Well you got that load off you chest, you bowels must have been twisted with bile.

What did they put in your and Hazy's mince pies. Must have been what was left when you cleared up after the Bullingdon Old Boys club.

Are things going badly for you as you seem to be reverting to "natural self"?

Why not hop off down to the Con party's HQ with the Hazyone and get the next lot of spiel to swallow?







cynic - 28 Dec 2013 15:29 - 34632 of 81564

fos-fred - i have merely stated what an awful lot of people on this site think of you .... frankly, and as stated several times before, you're nowt but a pompous, pontificating prig

Haystack - 28 Dec 2013 15:37 - 34633 of 81564

26 December

Blair ally Patrick Diamond tells Ed Miliband: cost of living will not win Labour the 2015 election

Ed Miliband has been warned by a prominent Blairite that his campaign on the “living standards crisis” will not win Labour the 2015 election because the party lacks credibility on the economy.

Patrick Diamond, a former Downing Street policy adviser to Tony Blair and Gordon Brown, said Britain’s return to growth and an expected rise in wages next year would hand George Osborne the “trump card” unless Labour acts quickly.

Allies of Mr Blair are worried that the strategy pursued by Mr Miliband and Ed Balls, the shadow Chancellor, will crumble as a recovering economy boosts the Conservatives’ prospects.

Mr Diamond wrote: “Months of adept opposition campaigning on ‘the cost of living’ have been brutally swept aside by a slew of positive economic data – alongside the hard economic choices with which the Chancellor is confronting Labour.”

He added: “Unless it can adapt its position in response to fast-changing events, the hallmark of any adroit opposition, Labour will be behind before the contest is properly under way.

Last week, Mr Balls launched a “zero-based spending review”, saying he wanted to put the nation’s budget back into surplus. But he hinted that he might not reveal the detail of his spending cuts until after the election and said he would not be drawn into an “auction” with Mr Osborne on welfare cuts.

He expressed fears that the Chancellor’s Autumn Statement this month might prove to be the moment Labour lost the next election

Haystack - 28 Dec 2013 15:44 - 34634 of 81564

7 December

Ed Miliband was last night accused of displaying contempt for voters after his polling guru said their anti-immigration views made him ‘depressed’.

James Morris made a series of scornful remarks after holding a focus group meeting intended to help the party devise Election-winning policies on the issue.

Mr Morris, a key member of the Labour leader’s strategy unit, dismissed the views of those present as ‘fill jobs with Brits’.

His outburst reflects tensions among Mr Miliband’s team over immigration. The party is haunted by claims that the last Labour Government was responsible for mass immigration from Eastern Europe – and divided over whether Mr Miliband should take a stronger line.

Mr Morris, a former No 10 adviser to Tony Blair at the time of the ‘open-door’ policy, used the social-networking website Twitter to announce on Monday evening: ‘Recipe for a miserable evening: off to do focus groups on immigration.’

And afterwards, he wrote, in a line dripping with sarcasm: ‘Tonight’s focus groups as progressive as I hoped,’ adding: ‘Their plan: end migration and fill jobs with Brits who have to take job.’

He declared that it had left him ‘depressed, as you might imagine’.

The liberal views on immigration of many of Labour’s frontbenchers are not shared by most voters.

In a recent opinion poll, 72 per cent of respondents favoured slamming the door on unskilled immigrants, while 59 per cent thought we should allow fewer relatives of people already living in Britain into the country to join them.

The findings forced Mr Miliband to announce that, if he wins the next Election, he will introduce measures to help British workers.

Last night, Conservative MP Nadhim Zahawi said of Mr Morris’s remarks: ‘This shows the contempt Labour and Ed Miliband have for the public. They don’t want to hear people’s views about immigration.

'Instead they want to censor and shut down any sensible and rational debate on an extremely important subject.

‘It’s the same old Labour. Anyone who doesn’t share their world view is mocked and attacked.’

A spokesman for Ed Miliband declined to comment.

cynic - 28 Dec 2013 16:03 - 34635 of 81564

i can't think off-hand of any politicians in the current parliament whom one could admire or even feel that (s)he was better than second-rate .... in honesty, i am afraid that this is nearly always the case and is why politicians are held in such low esteem

however, one could say the same of car salesmen (sorry chaps), but despite that, one still buys a car, even if only as a necessity .... a similar case can be made for voting

aldwickk - 28 Dec 2013 16:31 - 34636 of 81564

cynic

Don't you mean prick [prig ] but to Fred it still read's the same, his Dyleck tic

cynic - 28 Dec 2013 16:48 - 34637 of 81564

prig is exactly the word i wanted

do you (we) not find it strange that this stalwart promoter of far-left socialist idealism is not singing the praises of francois hollande and his policies?
i wonder why

Fred1new - 28 Dec 2013 17:57 - 34638 of 81564

Was Nadhim Zahawi the con party MP who was attempting to charge the tax payer for heating his stable for his horses?

Perhaps, he should clean his own stable out and then have a look at one or more of his own party followers.

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Manuel, if you read back through your gibberish posting you may find that you scatter your "opinions" widely and frequently. (No objection.)

As I have written before, to me you appear the equivalent of "a rent a mouth", or perhaps on second thoughts you may be looked upon as the Con party's "Godfrey Bloom".

Only the latter did have a sense of humour according to some.

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Of course you don't have to agree with me, or vote for UKIP.

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But it is interesting that the likes of Cameron, Osborne and the Hazyone started off three years ago, when not having won an election against a "worn out" government" started by blaming Labour, from the beginning, for their own failing and U-turning policies, reverting to attempting to denigrate those of opposing views as as some over grown public school boys tend to do. (The reuniting of the nasty little boys party.)

Having failed to attract the public, the next and even lower form of their and often your method of argument is by playing the scapegoat card, attacking the most defenceless in society and of course the immigrants, ie. those "different" to themselves and identifiable, for the ills of the economy and once again their own failing.

(It is the Bloody Johnny Foreigners and unemployed and dependent, who are the reason for ALL YOUR PROBLEMS. This approach stinks to me and I would expect many of the Labour, Lib/Dem and more moderate political parties.)

It seems many of the con and UKIP parties would be more at home in the BNP.

(At least the latter group appear to have a veneer of honesty missing in the present leadership of the modern tory party.)

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Manuel, I think would benefit from defining and reviewing for himself what he understands by "left-wing socialism", before his next bleat, rather than continuing to demonstrate his own ignorance.

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8-)
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