Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Taxes have already been raised


http://www.adamsmith.org/taxfreedomday

MailOnline - news,politics.. Saturday, Dec 28 2013 3AM

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so fossy declines to make any real comment of any kind about hollande, who ought to be his idol upholding and acting on all those left-socialist ideals which fossy raves so incessantly about

instead, fossy gripes, grizzles and whinges incessantly about the present incumbents and how awful they are and how they ought to be raising taxes, penalising anyone who earns more than about £50k pa and all sorts of other nonsense that his pretend socialist conscience dictates

no surprise really, because fossy lives up to his sobriquet as always

prig i called fossy previously, and prig he most assuredly is

As I said earlier, it doesn't matter what the public think at the moment. The chart above is about cost of living. That will improve as the event nomy improves.

The Conservative policies are about 'supply side policies' as opposed to the left wing Keynesian economics. The current policies are essentially the same as were very successfully used in the Thatcher period

If the tory party put taxes down he would be on their case.

I haven't seen any comments from the Conservatives saying taxes would rise. I have seen though comments from the left saying that the Conservatives would have to raise taxes.

So what within reason if taxes have to rise, the credit card is better paid off sooner than later.

Hays,

Do you mean when Thatcher destroyed the Manufacturing base of the economy in favour of the Financial and Service "Industries", which so successfully saved us from the recent and continuing economic crash.

Of course, there were the benefits in donations to the party from the geniuses of these industry to the party funds.

But of course we can trust the "captains of industry" to do the right things and not plunder the country and take the spoils to tax havens.

Why I chat with them every time they come into the No 10 Kitchen through the back door.

(Or was that Murdoch and Beccy.)

But this present government doesn't think changing the regulations are necessary, or it hasn't the guts to put in the necessary regulations to prevent the next collapse.

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But, I must admit I have a little more respect for Cable and Clegg in their denouncing of the latest dreamt-up tory policies.

Thatcher destroyed the Manufacturing base of the economy
that is absolute rubbish, but then what would expect from fossy .... it fits his pretend-socialist persona (while pontificating from his cosy andover-stuffed armchair) to state such, but to repeat, the accusation is total nonsense as fossy well knows .... typically he just extracts the bits and pieces and snippets and manipulates them to suit

He is not "Gobshite Of The Year (recurring)" by default.

The writing is a bit small, but if you want to read it, go to the site and you can expand it by pressing control and +

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/cartoon/2013/dec/29/riddell-political-almanac-2014-cartoon

Try this instead.
Interesting reading but difficult for Manuel.

http://www.theguardian.com/business/2013/dec/29/uk-manufacturing-economic-growth

"This month has seen further confirmation of Britain's economic recovery and an indictment of that recovery's composition. If 2013 has brought some form of revival, then we must wish that 2014 brings balance to it.

The evidence that this country's return to growth is out of kilter was threefold. First, never-before-seen data showed that south-west London had more mortgage debt than all of Wales. The capital is at the centre of a housing market revival that is powering the recovery, while the rest of the UK trails in its wake.

Indeed, 44% of all mortgage debt in the country is held by people in London and the south-east, areas which account for nearly 40% of British GDP.

Redressing the issues thrown up by those statistics is a long-term challenge, one that involves tilting Britain's centre of economic gravity away from financial services and London towards other sectors and other regions. Manufacturing, for instance, shares its wealth much more evenly across the UK than banking. But while the aspiration to spread the growth may be admirable, and is unlikely to draw much opposition from politicians of any stripe (barring the more fervent supporters of the City in the Conservative party), it is difficult to achieve".

and your point is?
perhaps it was this bit .... "Manufacturing, for instance, shares its wealth much more evenly across the UK than banking"
even your chosen rag seems to admit that manufacturing in the uk is performing very strongly - surprised me too - albeit that it is from a base greatly depleted since WW1


by the way, when are you going to give your assessment of the achievements of your left-socialist hero hollande?
surely he's now been in power long enough for you, with your self-evident superior intellect, to draw out at least a few of your typically perceptive analyses?

You would expect most mortgage debt to be in London as it has the highest value properties. It also has the highest pay, so the people may be better placed to repay the mortgage. I know someone with a £2m mortgage on a house worth £20m.

MailOnline - news,politics.. Saturday, Dec 28 2013 3AM

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Manuel.

Bleating again.

You are more a more like an old comedian with a worn out joke.

Why don't you extol the virtues of an old hag like Maggie.

I would have thought she would have been your cup of tea.

But I doubt you would have been hers.

Why not read the whole article or is it past you timespan limit of concentration?

Ask Hays to explain any long words to you.

He probably understands them but like you is in denial.
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oh dear oh dear ..... fossy's great at slagging off anyone who disagrees with him, but singularly inept and incapable of answering questions put to him .... a bit like a rather poor quality politician

let's try again ....
fossy - you've seen your hero hollande in power for at least a couple of years ..... please tell us why you think his left-socialist policies, which you seem to support pretty much to the hilt, are so much better that the incumbents' in uk
can you manage to understand that question?
if not, i'll rephrase it yet again for you, though i'm sure your self-evident superior intellect will mange to grasp what is being asked


to answer you ....
yes, i most assuredly think MrsT brought this country back from the imminent disasters that were being manipulated upon us by the communist, russian-paid union leaders such as scargill
had the unions been allowed to run riot, as assuredly would have happened without MrsT, then we would now be living in a very much worse and economically bankrupt country

did MrsT get it 100% right all the time?
of course not, and certainly in her latter 2/3 years, she completely lost the plot

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