cynic
- 20 Oct 2007 12:12
rather than pick out individual stocks to trade, it can often be worthwhile to trade the indices themselves, especially in times of high volatility.
for those so inclined, i attach below charts for FTSE and FTSE 250, though one might equally be tempted to trade Dow or S&P, which is significantly broader in its coverage, or even NASDAQ
for ease of reading, i have attached 1 year and 3 month charts in each instance
Stan
- 14 Nov 2008 11:26
- 3472 of 21973
MD sometimes it can be irrelevant to "know", but just trade what you see in the short term.
maddoctor
- 14 Nov 2008 11:31
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Stan , agree entirely with you but interested cos something seems to have changed over the last nine years although the Elliot boys are presently showing a graph of what happened in 1930 and huge moves were made then over days in the bear market but I do not think in the minutes we are seeing now.
Stan
- 14 Nov 2008 11:41
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Yes agree with all that, but don't forget that that was then and this is now, all new territory.
Strawbs
- 14 Nov 2008 11:55
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I suspect last nights rally was short covering ahead of the G20 meeting. I don't suppose they'll come up with anything, but many will want to lock in profits just in case. I read somewhere this week that trading volumes are down too, so any buying or selling pressure creates relatively big moves. Given recent volatility, many will be running close stop orders, so a sharp movement against the trend probably creates a "domino effect".
My guess is we'll probably restest the lows after the weekend.
In my opinion.
Strawbs.
P.S. Well done Keaydian
ThePublisher
- 14 Nov 2008 12:29
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md,
Glad someone feels there may be a bit of truth in my theory.
You may find it interesting to take a quick look at
this thread
It drifted quite quickly but the theory I was suggesting was that it was the introduction of SETS that precipitated greater inter day volatility. And of course, going back to the pre SETS period we could not have had computer driven trading at all.
And no Stan, I am not saying it's more important than learning to trade in the present climate. I'm just postulating that these relatively dramatic swings in share prices may have ceased to provide a true picture of the world economy.
TP
cynic
- 14 Nov 2008 13:23
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ok KD, which way are you jumping with Dow today? ...... Freddie's numbers horrid and Dow indicating -190
KEAYDIAN
- 14 Nov 2008 14:14
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Cynic, not touching it for the time being.
cynic
- 14 Nov 2008 14:25
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quite right too!
cynic
- 14 Nov 2008 15:22
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DOW
just to highlight current volatility
13:23 indicating to open -190
14:25 much the same, though it had been better in the interim
15:20 -210 though it has been lower and also 150 points higher!
KEAYDIAN
- 14 Nov 2008 15:46
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Just testing the Dow at the moment. I'll soon see if yesterday was a fluke before I give back all the winnings.
cynic
- 14 Nov 2008 15:54
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which way are going? ..... get the timing and rhythm right, and almost certainly plenty to be made on both tacks
KEAYDIAN
- 14 Nov 2008 15:59
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Cynic, lately I developed this inability to short, so can only go long when the option arrives.
cynic
- 14 Nov 2008 16:19
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psychologically difficult for no good reason
cynic
- 18 Nov 2008 09:54
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who watched Spooks last night?
KEAYDIAN
- 18 Nov 2008 09:54
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Not me.
cynic
- 18 Nov 2008 10:07
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all about banks and uk being shorted to destruction!
bhunt1910
- 18 Nov 2008 19:37
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Bit too close to the truth for my liking !!!
cynic
- 19 Nov 2008 21:01
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sure glad i am short of more than i am long (WOS, WPP, MKS) than i am long ..... only long of consequence is IEC which is a special sit
spitfire43
- 20 Nov 2008 07:06
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Nikki over 7% down, could be testing new lows here with dow at it's lowest point.
Falcothou
- 20 Nov 2008 12:22
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Ig not been hedging properly ?
IG Group Plc (IGG LN) slumped 41.75 pence, or 18 percent, to 186.50, the sharpest drop since at least 2005. The owner of the IG Index financial-market betting brand, said first-half bad-debt costs will be almost quadruple the total for all of last year because of customers' wrong-way bets on Royal Bank of Scotland Group Plc stock.