Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Your not wrong there Haystack... It proves the point though that Keynesian theory is out of date to some extent as it was written at a time when corporations didn't rule the economy. Back in the 1920's where would you have borrowed money easily from?

Cynic, no degree of study can compete with commonsense grounding when investing!!
Just for you I've dug out a rather nice article, link below.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-19706272

an interesting article shortie, but all it does is reinforce what we all know - no one, especially politicians, has a clue as to how their policies will actually turn out .... and of course there's no action replay to try the alternative!

nevertheless, my gut feeling is that the tough measures that were taken and we have all had to endure, were far and away the best way ...... the drip, drip, drip austerity measures proposed by "the party opposite" may have proved more popular, but in my very uneducated opinion, such a policy would have been truly grim in the long term

Cynic, the free market approach says "if you can't pay then you can't buy", the coalition have ensured that "we can pay and will buy"... Tough measures taken, I think though measures are still to come...

Even the Labour party has said they will make cuts if elected, but they won't give details.

Hays.

When I read Post 34763 I thought you were writing writing of what some expected of members of the Old Bullingdon Club members.

Also, I think some of the economic rubbish written here is equivalent to a pile of old Cynic which should have been buried a long time ago.

A pity the whole cabinet didn't go through the Bullingdon Prison regime.

Which ever is the quickest path out of Europe will win my vote as I see this as our countries first priority..

shortie - so you wouldn't even buy into the idea of a renegotiating treaty of rome?

fossy - well, you're just fos!

As usual with the bone headed "Con" Artists on here you conveniently forget the word "balance" in your one sided rhetoric.

As opposed to soft in the head lefties.

i'll exclude myself from that comment, even if you might not, but fossy's idea of balance is to ignore every question put to him re francois hollande and to slag all and sundry who do not agree with him ..... yet of course, he's so fos that he can't ever get off his "throne" to vote

Oh dear, reverting to type yet again... Which comes as no surprise as usual.

Joe Public, are seeing through the Wavey Davey, Osborne and the con party spiel. The camp followers haven't caught up. (Some seemed to be still snorting.)

Bur interesting market this am.


Debenhams fails to spread Christmas cheer

The share price of Debenhams dropped sharply after the department store group warned that its bottom line would be hit by falling margins in the first half. The company is now guiding to a pre-tax profit of just £85m for the six months ending March 2nd, down 26% year-on-year and well below analysts' estimates.

Debenhams said it didn't experience the "anticipated final surge in sales" in the key week before Christmas and has had to make additional markdowns to clear stock in January and February. Next which is due to update the market on recent trading on Thursday, quickly erased early gains to trade lower after the Debenhams statement.

Other retailers, including Marks & Spencer, Kingfisher, Sainsbury and WH Smith were also firmly out of favour.




Another pile which reminds me of Manuel and the like.

Debenhams take the piss out of the public. You cannot sell a £5 rag for £150 with a designer label in it. I have seen better stuff in the market or primark. I was looking at some of their clothes in the sale ie £150 down to £75 . No1 what message does this send out to the public . 2. What are you buying, no doubt something that Debenhams has paid a fiver for. Rip off merchants.

it has been flagged for a while that high street retailers were having a really bad time, even through christmas ..... the vile weather will have done nothing to cheer of course

however, NXT and almost certainly ASC who have strong on-line business, fared much better

i don't know if NXT's last figures were late enough to make any comment of their own christmas trade, but if i heard correctly, they were the only multiple fashion outlet that did NOT reduce prices before christmas

Been in two or so m+s over the Christmas period and I praise them for the 30% off store sale. What else can they do. Is it better to turn the goods over with a less profit or be stuck with them ?

the only part of M+S that isn't dead meat, is its dead meat (and veg) :-)

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DC - now ask yourself how much that mulberry/prada/chanel handbag or whatever actually costs to make (in hk and the like) and how much it sells for

is it a rip off?
in many ways yes, but if someone will pay the money - and plenty will - then what's the argument?

btw, "sales" are traditionally the most lucrative times for stores, though with some shops marking down 70%+ and before christmas, that may prove to be otherwise this year

the other prob that retailers have now created for themselves, is that there are now few months in the year when "sales" are NOT taking place, so the public will inevitably opt to buy at full price less and less