Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Happy new year all.

It is not the Treaty of Rome that is the problem. It created a trading block. The part that everyone complains about is the movement towards EU government, federalism, monetary control and dictating our laws. A trading treaty should have no business in writing laws that interfere with our laws.

The trading aspect has lessened in importance and now the EU as a sort of German empire is emerging. The Germans now don't have to get involved with all that messy killing. They can just buy the whole thing.

How do you spell TWAT? F R E ............................1

Happy New Year All!!! :O)

Shrewd move by the lesser spotted millibandus.


Labour calls for talks with broadcasters over TV election debates

Douglas Alexander says Labour backs format used for 2010 election and does not rule out participation of Ukip leader


Patrick Wintour, political editor


The Guardian, Tuesday 31 December 2013 18.09 GMT


Alexander said: "Farage potentially taking part is not a dealbreaker for Labour, but it appears that it might be for David Cameron. The priority for us is to ensure that there is a debate between the two prospective prime ministers of the country – Ed Miliband and David Cameron. The other issues about format are a matter for negotiation."


http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2013/dec/31/labour-broadcasters-tv-election-debates-douglas-alexander

There is no point in Garage debating as he is on track to get zero MPs.

What would he debate. It is a one policy party.

You could say the same about Cleggy...his lot are gong to get wiped out.

They will end up with roughly the same number of MPs. The Libs also have a complete set of reasonable policies.

A few more surges like Eastleigh, and ukip could take off.


Mike Thornton (Liberal Democrat) 13,342

Diane James (UKIP) 11,571

Maria Hutchings (Conservative) 10,559

John O'Farrell (Labour) 4,088

Danny Stupple (Independent) 768


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-21625726

lib/dems really do seem to have collapsed completely .... we could be back to the days when their whole representation could fit in a telephone kiosk

ukip really do not seem to have any sensible policies, and i'm far from convinced that staying silent for weeks and months at a time really does them any favours, though i suppose farage is hoping that the others will all hang themselves

For Europhobes like Hays and Manuel,

EU has a combined population of over 500 million inhabitants,[22] or 7.3% of the world population,[23] the EU in 2012 generated a nominal gross domestic product (GDP) of 16.584 trillion US dollars, constituting approximately 23% of global nominal GDP and 20% when measured in terms of purchasing power parity, which is the largest nominal GDP and GDP PPP in the world.

The UK has a population of about 65 million and approximate GDP of 2.435 trillion.

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The UK with its present political leadership is becoming and more and more insignificant irritation to the EU, with many of the "partners" getting fed up with grandstanding by the Euro-phobes, who are mainly from the looney tory right and UKIP little Englanders.

If the UK was to leave the EU it would not lead to a breakup if the EU, but probably ease a greater political, economic and legal integration, leading to increased cooperative military development and scientific research amongst the remaining members.
(It would be likely that there would be a brain drain to Europe, or elsewhere as the "independent UK fiefdom" would be unable to afford the costs of "serious" R&D, etc.)

The UK be sidelined as an off shore island, which it is and trade deals and regulations would be slanted in Europe's favour.

Banking and tax regulations would be improved, and centrally supervised and gradually enforced.

(London may remain the a centre for money laundering, as many already see it, but to a lesser degree. This may suit some.)

Investment from outside the EU would be into EU more and more directly and through the UK.

The "financial services" would gradually move to Central Europe giving others who need the services direct exposure to the EU and Euros. This would be a matter of convenience.

The Euros won't collapse, as has promised by euro-sceptics since it conception.

The collapse has been continuously sort after by some, especially for the last 18 months with its imminent death being forecast at 2-3- 4 or so months.

Yet, it is as strong now as any other time and the EU is being referred to as recognisable entity as GB is becoming less important.

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Cameron and some of his cronies recognise this and in spite of all his present blustering and posturing, would if the crunch came, acclaim he has got "concessions" from his fruitless negotiations and canvass to stay in the union.

Fauxpage, wouldn't do so, but he is already beginning to look a busted flush.

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It may be sensible to examine some of the more wealthier protagonists financial reasons for getting out of the Union.

The views and reasoning of the BNP and UKIP minions are less interesting.

Just the usual nonsense.

We will see.

It depends on whether you want to live under the Pax Germanica.

Happy new year to all capitalist running dogs!

Hays.

What I want is for my children and grandchildren and all others to be healthy, to live at peace, with respect for themselves and all others. With comfortable standard of living and opportunities to enjoy the careers they map out for themselves.

Whether that occurs or not is within the realms of possibility.

A news reporter dressed up as a priest to attempt to gain access to Michael Schumacher’s hospital room where he is currently battling for his life after a skiing accident, the Formula One champion’s manager Sabine Kehm revealed.

You haystack, are becoming more irrelevant with every post you make.


Have you completely lost the plot?

And who the fucking hell are you Max? Nobody so fuck off not to put to fine a point on it! Copy and paste, soft daft cartoons straight from that left wing rag laughguardian. Go and peddle your left wing shite where it may be appreciated. Happy New Year you tosser!

MaxK
This is not a political discussion. It is really apropos of nothing.

Published at 12:01AM, January 1 2014

David Cameron takes a swipe at France today as he vows to make 2014 the year that Britain starts turning into the world’s “post-Great Recession success story”. In an apparent gibe at President Hollande’s handling of the French economy, the Prime Minister urges voters to reject any shift towards “more borrowing, more spending and more debt” by urging them to look at countries following that approach. “They face increasing unemployment, industrial stagnation and enterprise in free fall. The opposite of what’s happening here,” he writes in an article for The Times. “Our recovery is real, but it’s also fragile, and there are more difficult decisions ahead. A return to that economic madness would devastate this country.”